What's the catch? (Given they tried to destroy PWAs in their last tantrum.)
They'll try harder to find an excuse next time.
Given that the EU is now making laws that are purposely designed to target them specifically, good luck with that.
Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account
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#52Not trying to start a flame war, I'm asking this earnestly. Where does this command over hardware (USB-C mandate), software (sideloading/AppStore), and prices (recent 2bn decision) end?
You want to sell in their house, you gotta play by their rules. It’s that simple.
It's not their house. Someone bought an iPhone (not leased, bought, they own it now). Someone else made an app that that person wants to install on their iPhone (solely thanks to app developer's own marketing efforts). But Apple thinks it's appropriate to have their finger in the pie too.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think there is a strategy, this is all theater so he has some pushback if investors file complaints or lawsuits during the next quarterly results meeting. They can't say that Tim Cook didn't do everything in his power to make them even *more* money. Since, ultimately, his duty as a CEO is to prioritize the financial wealth of shareholders. If he just complied with the EU then he'd be voted out by the board by…
> If he just complied with the EU then he'd be voted out by the board by the end of the week. Most companies like Facebook and Microsoft quietly comply with the rules as best they can with as little fanfare as possible. Maybe after paying a fine or two. As far as I know, there hasn't been any oustings because of that.
Apple stands to lose a lot more due to the DMA and parties like Spotify and Epic are doing everything they can to make Apple look bad in the public eye.
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#54Getting pretty huge clown face painting meme vibes.
A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Which probably boils down to one overzealous middle/higher manager trying too hard to be a good boi for superiors to get extra bonus... I don't think it panned as expected. Otherwise apple corporate culture is quite rotten.
There is no way such a decision was not approved by the upper echelon of management. That has both legal ramifications and monetary for a huge client.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
More likely that the request for more information on this case from the EU commission to Apple triggered the walk back. At least the EU Commissioner for the internal market is happy about the reverse: https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1766167580497117464
Yikes I hate that Thierry is using "#freefortnite". You can be completely on board with the DMA but still see Epic's behavior as entirely profit motivated and "freeing Fortnite" should not be any official's priority. Epic is not some oppressed minority that needs saving.
It's not about Epic. It's about Apple wantonly violating EU laws. The target simply happened to be Epic.
That being said: it's probably a good thing it was Epic that Apple went after; Apple would probably have gotten away with going after a smaller company.
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#56This is just so weird to watch. Apple is literally throwing a tantrum on a continent-wide stage. Like, it's one attempt at escalation after another, and they keep losing (either their legal fights, or their nerve) and having to reverse course. Like, there's no strategy at all here? Just keep swinging and hope you land a blow that breaks through the armor? This is how my 15 year old plays VR games.
I don't think there is a strategy, this is all theater so he has some pushback if investors file complaints or lawsuits during the next quarterly results meeting. They can't say that Tim Cook didn't do everything in his power to make them even *more* money. Since, ultimately, his duty as a CEO is to prioritize the financial wealth of shareholders. If he just complied with the EU then he'd be voted out by the board by…
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want to sell in their house, you gotta play by their rules. It’s that simple.
If only it were that simple!! Isn't the central problem that you're not allowed to sell in anybody elses house. I mean, if you're prepared to accept that you are leasing the device and that the lease will dictate what you can add can't do with the device, then I think your position holds, otherwise, it's a little tenuous.
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#58Please stop picking stupid fights, Apple. You keep losing them.
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#59I, for once, love living in the EU
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#60Getting pretty huge clown face painting meme vibes.
A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Which probably boils down to one overzealous middle/higher manager trying too hard to be a good boi for superiors to get extra bonus... I don't think it panned as expected. Otherwise apple corporate culture is quite rotten.
> A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing.
Especially when you add the failed PWA move before, they're starting to look pretty bad.