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Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

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I keep both Plex and Jellyfin installed on my server with the same media. Plex is easier to navigate for my family than Jellyfin (specifically their respective Roku apps). But the way that Plex is pushing their monetization with ads and now rentals, and now shenanigans like this, I feel it's time to fully migrate to Jellyfin. I should learn Roku development so I can contribute to their app...

... Ads?

People are going to the effort of downloading content, self hosting it, and then watching ads?

Stallman protect us what

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much would it cost to polish Jellyfin? $100k-$500k? Polish public goods, defends against corporate mechanics.

I'm curious how you would define "polish" here: do you mean spending time on fixing current features as opposed to adding new ones? If so, I can see the argument there: a lot of software tends to prioritize new features over long-term stability. On the other hand, I've had a fairly good experience with Jellyfin -- it's mostly been a set-and-forget solution.

Sure, by "polish" I mean to get it somewhat close to parity with Plex. If it's great as is, perhaps no additional polish is required. I prefer to invest in open source tools that will remain open, whenever possible. It is a component of defending against enshittification, because that which has been built cannot then be revoked or gated.

At the end of the day, it’s always about control.

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#54

This is the reason I roll my eyes when millennials talk about setting up “their plex” or “their discord”. It’s not your sandcastle if someone else owns the sandbox.

Eh, there's a big difference; "their Plex" is software they download which uses their hardware and data they control to provide a service. There are alternatives (jellyfin) which allows a person to get the same functionality using their same hardware and the same data they control.

Discord though you're very right about, discord is more MSN messenger than it is IRC.

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#55

This is why it's better to control your software. Firms change over time and your interests are likely to diverge from theirs. This is _especially_ true when we're talking about media-related software which is always contentious in terms of copyright. Jellyfin isn't as feature-rich or polished as Plex, but I rest assured knowing that I'm the one who controls my installation.

I have 3 paid subscription services (Disney+, Prime and Netflix).

But most of the time we just use Jellyfin. It's just better UX, even if it lacks polish. Stuff is in predictable places, in one app. I don't need to scroll past 2 full screens of generated lists with suggested content to get to my personal hand made watch list.

I'm fully ready to drop subscription streaming and go back to buying DVD or Bluray box sets to rip at this point.

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#56

This is why it's better to control your software. Firms change over time and your interests are likely to diverge from theirs. This is _especially_ true when we're talking about media-related software which is always contentious in terms of copyright. Jellyfin isn't as feature-rich or polished as Plex, but I rest assured knowing that I'm the one who controls my installation.

Whatever's going on at Plex HQ is very weird. I've used it for years and when I first set it up, it WAS software I controlled (or so I thought). I mean it was open source, you installed it locally, and there was no such thing as a Plex account or paid services at the time. Eventually they added the account, the upsells and the nags and scary messages which all led you towards getting an account, but I avoided doing s…

Plex will only stream through their servers if there is not a direct connection to your server. You need port 32400 open on your network.

I thought there was a way to disable this, but the docs don't mention it: https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-serve...

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#57

Use Emby, it's much more focused on accessing your own files, while Plex has shifted towards ad supported movies which are accessible in a million other ways. I assume that's why they are cancelling users who actually use their own stuff.

Emby already went closed source, it will do the same.

Maybe? But I will still have my media and will see what is the best alternative if that happens. Maybe my WD NAS software will also go to seed and I will have to roll my own NAS. But what do I gain by giving up on the best experience now out of fear that this experience might degrade later? It's not like watching movies takes a huge learning curve. In the meantime, there are some incentives for Emby to keep their users happy and recommending their stuff, like I just did. If they don't, it's their loss.

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

#58
post #7

I keep both Plex and Jellyfin installed on my server with the same media. Plex is easier to navigate for my family than Jellyfin (specifically their respective Roku apps). But the way that Plex is pushing their monetization with ads and now rentals, and now shenanigans like this, I feel it's time to fully migrate to Jellyfin. I should learn Roku development so I can contribute to their app...

... Ads? People are going to the effort of downloading content, self hosting it, and then watching ads? Stallman protect us what

Plex certainly doesn't have ads for your local content. It does provide its own streaming service, and Plex has gotten much more aggressive with features like that, but you can pretty easily disable all of it via the UI.

Plex today feels like Plex in 2015 if you spend a few minutes tweaking. I agree the situation is not great, but it seems that this happens with most software owned by a for-profit company.

Re: Plex Accounts Getting Disabled

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a good setup to run jellyfin on. I currently run it on a Linux desktop. I tried running it on a raspberry pi, but it felt like it was struggling. Did I expect too much?

Jellyfin is fine if you direct stream only, but any form of transcoding will kill your server. It is a bit hard to get other people to download the desktop Jellyfin Media Player or Infuse on iOS, and I don't think Android has a version of the app with massive codec support.

Their ffmpeg and/or container is very dlow to update to support new hardware too. They still don't supportthe newer amd onboard gpus for example
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