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Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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Asked it to extract some data from a spreadsheet. It's first answer was wrong. I corrected it. It's second answer was wrong. That's when I quit. (It was a simple sheet. I said "list the names of all items where [column name] is false". There was about 60 rows)

I'm sure your spreadsheet software has a function for that. This will qualify your spreadsheet software as AI since it's smarter than the other AI.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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Friends don't let friends use Brave.

I really don't get this hate Brave gets on HN and other tech forums. It's a de-Googled Chromium fork which retains support for Manifest v2 extensions and has a bunch of neat extra features like first-party ad-blocking, an (underused and probably at this point should be considered a failed experiment) advertising network where users are paid for the ads they consume, Tor-integration, Web3 integrations. Yes, it default…

> I really don't get this hate Brave gets on HN

Well maybe due to the multiples bad things that brave did in the past.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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In my opinion, the goal of increasing automation has gone from a useful relief of labor to an obsession that will lead nowhere. Globally, this seems to be reflected only by increasing resource use and increasing ignorance of the natural world by producing purely for the sake of making consumerism more efficient. AI assistant in a browser...it's getting ridiculous.

what is ridiculous about it? I read the gist of the articles I am mildly curious about by summarizing them on the spot. If it sounds more interesting than I thought I read it in full. Saves me time. Sometimes I ask one or two clarifying questions as well. Arc browser has this built in and I find it very useful.

I summarize the transcripts of 20+ min. long youtube videos to get the gist, which is what I am interested in anyways. Saves me time. (this is something I built custom for my use, maybe there are other options for this)

It is not an obsession. I always wanted something, someone that could do this for me, and now we have it.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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Friends don't let friends use Brave.

You mean chrome

Brave for mobile, Firefox for desktop. Firefox on mobile is a poor experience for accessibility. Also, in my experience, the delivery was quite better for Firefox Mobile before 2021. Not sure what all changes, but it really impacted my use.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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In my opinion, the goal of increasing automation has gone from a useful relief of labor to an obsession that will lead nowhere. Globally, this seems to be reflected only by increasing resource use and increasing ignorance of the natural world by producing purely for the sake of making consumerism more efficient. AI assistant in a browser...it's getting ridiculous.

The browser will be even less under our control than before, surveillance will go to the next level, and your private data will land in even more obscure places than before. Ridiculous maybe, but by no means pointless. “AI” will be the end of ad blockers and a whole host of measures to secure a remnant of privacy on the net.

> “AI” will be the end of ad blockers...

On the contrary, I feel like AI--even if it doesn't advance much further than the level we already have achieved--is putting us at the cusp of finally being able to have good end-game fully-working ad blockers: I'll just have an AI in my browser read / look at / watch / "experience" your content and then launder away any and all ads in its presentation to me... I can even have it make extreme edits if required, rebuilding the audio and video, to remove subtle bias your content wants to infect me with due to sponsorship deals.

What is fighting to prevent ad blockers is not AI... it is pervasive DRM: if we live in a world where the tech platforms continue to side with Big Content and prevent us from being able to capture and alter media as we see it on devices they insist we "buy" and yet never "own"--and where the business models of the most powerful companies rely on proving that an end-user human affirmatively was on the other side of an interaction (and thereby might have been infected with paid propaganda)--we are stuck inside of a dystopia :(.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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In my opinion, the goal of increasing automation has gone from a useful relief of labor to an obsession that will lead nowhere. Globally, this seems to be reflected only by increasing resource use and increasing ignorance of the natural world by producing purely for the sake of making consumerism more efficient. AI assistant in a browser...it's getting ridiculous.

there are several AI features I would absolutely love to see integrated into the browser, primarily, content filtering with my own custom criteria. for example, I don't want to see yuppie shit on news.ycombinator.com. right now, I have a userscript that filters out links from the worst offenders (e.g. newyorker), but every day, there are many more that shit up the front page and waste my time and attention. this coul…

> for example, I don't want to see yuppie shit on news.ycombinator.com. right now, I have a userscript that filters out links from the worst offenders (e.g. newyorker), but every day, there are many more that shit up the front page and waste my time and attention. this could be solved with a very low parameter LLM by asking it to evaluate whether the text is related to science and technology or not."

FWIW, I once used naive Bayes classification solely on HN headlines and it worked reasonably well for solving the problem you're describing.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who ever said regular advertising isn't a grift? Advertising in general is just psychological manipulation designed to make you sadder and poorer by manufacturing a specific discontent in the victim and then selling them a supposed cure for that discontent.

Then isn't it better when they're upfront about it?

If someone's going to kick me in the groin, then I suppose it's technically better to be up-front about the fact that they're going to kick me in the groin, but in truth I'd just rather not be kicked in the groin at all, thanks.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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post #53

In my opinion, the goal of increasing automation has gone from a useful relief of labor to an obsession that will lead nowhere. Globally, this seems to be reflected only by increasing resource use and increasing ignorance of the natural world by producing purely for the sake of making consumerism more efficient. AI assistant in a browser...it's getting ridiculous.

what is ridiculous about it? I read the gist of the articles I am mildly curious about by summarizing them on the spot. If it sounds more interesting than I thought I read it in full. Saves me time. Sometimes I ask one or two clarifying questions as well. Arc browser has this built in and I find it very useful. I summarize the transcripts of 20+ min. long youtube videos to get the gist, which is what I am interested…

If the AI is summarizing web pages, why couldn't this be done with a browser extension?

If the AI is summarizing files the user downloads, why couldn't this be done with external tools?

In general though, why does the browser itself need to be "smart"? Its primary, and perhaps only, goal should be to render web pages... I feel like this push to integrate AI features into browsers is done so that companies can promote their own (completely unrelated) AI services, and pull people even more into their ecosystem. It's obnoxious.

Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is ridiculous about it? I read the gist of the articles I am mildly curious about by summarizing them on the spot. If it sounds more interesting than I thought I read it in full. Saves me time. Sometimes I ask one or two clarifying questions as well. Arc browser has this built in and I find it very useful. I summarize the transcripts of 20+ min. long youtube videos to get the gist, which is what I am interested…

If the AI is summarizing web pages, why couldn't this be done with a browser extension? If the AI is summarizing files the user downloads, why couldn't this be done with external tools? In general though, why does the browser itself need to be "smart"? Its primary, and perhaps only, goal should be to render web pages... I feel like this push to integrate AI features into browsers is done so that companies can promote…

It can be done with a browser extension, and external tools. I only care about the friction, speed and ease of use. I am indifferent to where the functionality comes from, really. I'd like to have a very scriptable barebones browser alas such a thing does not exist as far as I know, so if the browser has them handy and it provides good experience, it is a net positive for me in any case.
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