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Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by Agathos »

thinkbohemian wrote: post #42
Danieru wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was curious and the list did not disappoint: https://postgres.heroku.com/pricing With that said I'm not sure how squid managed to be more dangerous than a kappa. >Kappa are usually seen as mischievous troublemakers. Their pranks range from the relatively innocent, such as loudly passing gas or looking up women's kimonos, to the malevolent, such as drowning people and animals, kidnapping children, and raping women ~…

I checked with some Japanese, the word on the street is that Kappa's are pretty innocuous

It's kind of a love-hate relationship. They can be trouble when they're feeling mischievous, but if they're happy they'll help you out. The Japanese will leave gifts at Kappa shrines, just in case.

The best gift is cucumber, which the Kappa can't resist. Don't go swimming in Japan after eating cucumber, because they will drown you when they smell it on you.

Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by jstin »

Heroku sells convenience, and resells EC2 instances to you. Their previous dedicated database option, Ronin, cost $200/month. When you connect the dots that this DB has a 1.7GB cache and that a small instance on EC2 has 1.7GB memory[1], you start to realize what you're really paying for.

While paying 3.3 times more[2] may be ok for the added simplicity, you have to wonder if your 'dedicated' database is really just a small instance on EC2? If it is a larger instance, then you are sharing it with other users.

However, even a small instance is far from not being shared. EC2 has performance issues, especially small instances. Disk IO is the worst.[3]

Disclaimer: These are all just my observations, and I don't how Heroku actually configure their Ronin databases. I'd love to be proven wrong, and to have someone from Heroku explain. But from personal experience with both EC2 and Heroku's Ronin database, if my conclusions are wrong, the results are not. I've seen very slow performance on the simplest of queries on both configurations.

[1] http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/ [2] http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/ [3] http://www.frederico-araujo.com/2011/12/27/why-ec2-still-sux...

Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by pvh »

treelovinhippie wrote: post #50

Still wish they would offer included mySQL (yes postgreSQL has advantages, but it's a pain in the arse to work with)

If the problems you're talking about are installation related (and you're on a Mac), we've got your back: http://postgresapp.com

Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by fdr »

salimmadjd wrote: post #7

Heroku is really great to get your started if you don't want to worry about managing infrastructure. However, you're paying a major premium for that and you need to have an exit plan from the beginning incase you grow too big and the costs no longer make sense.

What Heroku features, products, or enforced architectural choices (like no permanent disk on the spawned processes) do you see as causing lock-in that you would plan around avoiding or taking into consideration for a migration off Heroku?

Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by zokier »

jstin wrote: post #52

Heroku sells convenience, and resells EC2 instances to you. Their previous dedicated database option, Ronin, cost $200/month. When you connect the dots that this DB has a 1.7GB cache and that a small instance on EC2 has 1.7GB memory[1], you start to realize what you're really paying for. While paying 3.3 times more[2] may be ok for the added simplicity, you have to wonder if your 'dedicated' database is really just a…

I didn't think disk io matters all that much if you fit your data in memory, which afaik you should if you want any kind of decent performance.

Re: Heroku's new $50 and $100 per month database plans

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Post by lucian1900 »

pvh wrote: post #49
shaggyfrog wrote: post #36

If anyone from Heroku is reading, that page is a great example of how poor contrast results in poor readability. Blue-on-blue text makes me close the browser tab, and not actually see what you're trying to sell.

Many of us are reading. We'll look into increasing the contrast.

But please don't lay down the torch of dark backgrounds :)
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