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I broke IKEA (2023)

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Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by Karellen »

bowsamic wrote: post #39

This feels extremely legally risky EDIT: I'm getting downvoted. I think people have gone to prison for a lot less than this, at least in the US, please be careful and playfulness is not a legal defense

I wonder if it makes a difference that Ikea called them?

If you call someone and yell at them to go fuck themselves, there's a pretty good case for that being harassment. But if someone calls you and you tell them to go fuck themselves, well, that's a different story.

Similarly, people who initiate dodgy requests to web servers are clearly up to no good.

But if you're a web admin and happen to host a zip bomb at `/wp-admin`, only serving it out to people who specifically ask to be sent whatever happens to reside there - even though you've never advertised that URL's existence - is it really your fault if they can't handle the resource they contacted you and asked for?

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by rep_lodsb »

darkwater wrote: post #47
greggsy wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a comment in the post that offers a plausible explanation

The comment (from the author): > shared it with a few people who Know Telephone before I posted it here, and their theory is that what we're hearing at the end is the audio path going open-circuit when the PC crashed. It probably blue-screened, and we're hearing the EM interference from the CPU or I/O controller hub as Windows writes a minidump, then begins waiting for a debugger to attach (the blerps at the end bein…

This isn't Win9x, it shouldn't bluescreen just because some userspace program interpreting DTMF tones screws up.

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by pizzalife »

Karellen wrote: post #51
bowsamic wrote: post #39

This feels extremely legally risky EDIT: I'm getting downvoted. I think people have gone to prison for a lot less than this, at least in the US, please be careful and playfulness is not a legal defense

I wonder if it makes a difference that Ikea called them? If you call someone and yell at them to go fuck themselves, there's a pretty good case for that being harassment. But if someone calls you and you tell them to go fuck themselves, well, that's a different story. Similarly, people who initiate dodgy requests to web servers are clearly up to no good. But if you're a web admin and happen to host a zip bomb at `/wp…

Let's say someone is using a buggy version of curl. Is it legally okay to set up a web server that exploits the vulnerability when someone tries to fetch from you?

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by berkes »

kabouseng wrote: post #41
berkes wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand. A collect call (in The Netherlands) would just move the costs of the call to the reciever. Why is it beneficial to call an answering machine and have its owners pay for it?

"third party payer"

What is that?

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by sneak »

darkwater wrote: post #48

Off-topic but TIL about CoHost and Anti Software Club [1] [1] https://antisoftware.club/

It’s really impressive how overbroad and subjective the cohost terms of service are with regards to what you’re allowed to post on your own site.

Why does every microblogging platform now feel compelled to insert moral and social commentary in their site rules? What happened to the poster being responsible for the things that they post? We don’t blame the telephone company when people say bad things on phone calls.

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by deanishe »

sneak wrote: post #55
darkwater wrote: post #48

Off-topic but TIL about CoHost and Anti Software Club [1] [1] https://antisoftware.club/

It’s really impressive how overbroad and subjective the cohost terms of service are with regards to what you’re allowed to post on your own site. Why does every microblogging platform now feel compelled to insert moral and social commentary in their site rules? What happened to the poster being responsible for the things that they post? We don’t blame the telephone company when people say bad things on phone calls.

> We don’t blame the telephone company

A phone company should have no idea what its customers say during calls.

Blogs are public.

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by darkwater »

rep_lodsb wrote: post #52
darkwater wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment (from the author): > shared it with a few people who Know Telephone before I posted it here, and their theory is that what we're hearing at the end is the audio path going open-circuit when the PC crashed. It probably blue-screened, and we're hearing the EM interference from the CPU or I/O controller hub as Windows writes a minidump, then begins waiting for a debugger to attach (the blerps at the end bein…

This isn't Win9x, it shouldn't bluescreen just because some userspace program interpreting DTMF tones screws up.

It depends what is crashing. Audio drivers in WinXP were in kernel space IIRC.

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by volemo »

Severian wrote: post #9

Haha, awesome. Would be good to get the uncompressed audio, I bet you could decode that binary stream into bytes.

The recording has got to be compressed on the voice machine itself, so no hope in getting the clean version — it (most likely) doesn’t exist. :(

Re: I broke IKEA (2023)

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Post by Fnoord »

twothamendment wrote: post #11

Long ago I got a Psion Series 5. One feature was that it could dial a phone number (output the DTMF) for you. Messing around I've day I realized a contact could have a very long phone number. This was also back in the day when answering machines existed and many had a 2 digit code you could punch in to get into the menu from the outside line. My contact called Answering Machine had a very long phone number that got m…

I remember there was a KDE application for KDE 1.44 allowing the same. It was called Kphreak, or something like that. This was end 90s.
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