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Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by naasking »

Mistletoe wrote: post #45

Interesting, considering the following. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/01/human-body-te... > The researchers determined that the body temperature of men born in the early to mid-1990s is on average 1.06 F lower than that of men born in the early 1800s. Similarly, they determined that the body temperature of women born in the early to mid-1990s is on average 0.58 F lower than that of women born in the 189…

People are now also taller, with more body mass but possibly less muscle mass, likely less fit, and have clothes of likely better quality. Unclear how these factors would affect final body temp overall.

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Post by al_borland »

Aurornis wrote: post #42
FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

Depressive disorders are understood to involve alterations in inflammation pathways. SSRIs and SNRIs have been documented to induce alterations in multiple inflammatory pathways, coinciding with improvement of depression symptoms. That doesn’t imply that depression is a simple result of inflammatory processes, it just shows that depression is a cross-cutting alteration to the body’s function on many levels. In some c…

Is it possible that these physical markers are a result of how a person tends to live when depressed?

When I’m in a depressive state I’m generally eating garbage food, drinking a lot, and not sleeping much (staying up late, but still needing to get up for work). All of this is going to lead to a lot of inflammation and other negative physiological outcomes.

I’m dealing with this right now. I have mild chest pain, and have for weeks. This has happened before, cleaning up my diet, even just for a few days, made it go away.

It’s somewhat a chicken and egg problem to fix though. Mentally, things suck, so I want to keep doing what I’m doing, which causes physical discomfort. Overriding the desire to eat and drink the bad stuff, through sheer force of will, will ultimately alleviate the physical issues, and at the same time clear my my head to some degree… at least until something else pushes me over the edge. When I get pushed back into it, it’s normally just looking for a mental escape from discomfort. If I simply went to sleep instead, I’d probably be all good. I say simply, but that’s always been the hard part for me.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by naasking »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #32
paulpauper wrote: post #30

About one in five adults wore a fitness tracker, either as a band or smartwatch, in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center. I'm sure it's higher now and yet obesity rates keep going up. Shows how ineffective these solutions are. People are more active and tracking their calories yet weight gain is unstoppable.

Food is getting less nutritious.* I think this is a largely overlooked factor in the obesity epidemic. * https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrie...

I think it's mainly that food is just more abundant. It's literally everywhere now. You can't go out and do something without passing easy to acquire, relatively cheap and high calorie food to tempt you, or to satisfy every passing snacking impulse. That just wasn't the case for most of human history, even most of the 20the century.

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Post by ex3ndr »

I am wondering if you can just cool down your body to fix it. I had panic attacks in the past and now from time to time i am experience mild anxiety. Eventually i learned that hot shower or hot bed (i have 8sleep) actually increases anxiety, making my bed colder calms anxiety. This makes sense since anxiety and many other disorders are just overloading the body and cooling down stops the chemical processes that causes them.

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talldatethrow wrote: post #47
paulpauper wrote: post #30

About one in five adults wore a fitness tracker, either as a band or smartwatch, in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center. I'm sure it's higher now and yet obesity rates keep going up. Shows how ineffective these solutions are. People are more active and tracking their calories yet weight gain is unstoppable.

I had a gf that joined a female dance/pilates type gym and went religiously, yet actually gained weight over the year. When I told her that the two scoops of protein powder she was taking at lunch were probably causing weight gain because no girl needs an additional 60 grams of protein on top of a well balanced diet we already had, she got mad. Eventually we broke up because I can't deal with someone that can't have…

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Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by aszantu »

maybe weird... I'm suffering from migraine sometimes, my face starts feeling cold, including teeth and hard palate. So I measured and it was 33 c°, told a few doctors and got no response, still looking for a cause/solution. I'm also a depression sufferer, and the days after seem to be more anxious. Tried to go to the sauna with the symtoms, but couldn't handle more than 20 minutes last time. Felt better right after, but got more cold afterwards. Could be perimenopausal (40, female).

I've been tracking food for a while (elimination diet works for my depression), and the days leading up to the attack, I had some mixed foods, tsatziki and some curry sauce where the sauce tasted weird. AND I ate kinda low fat the last few days. Also no doctor could tell me how that is connected, they just try to put me on statins. Probably lean mass hyper responder, no proof though.

Within the keto community low body temperature was mentioned a few times, some of them take crazy amounts of iodine. Not sure I want to do that.

been collecting for a while https://github.com/cutestuff/FoodDepressionConundrum/blob/ma...

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by roenxi »

FraterSKM wrote: post #20

I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

There are roughly 2 ways to define illness - a cause leading to symptoms (HIV virus -> AIDS) or symptoms without a defined cause (eg, nausea).

Depression seems to be the second type, so I'm not sure it makes sense to talk about that sort of discovery. It seems self evident to me that sometimes depression will be caused by inflammation. Other times it'll be caused by other things. Brains are delicate self modifying machines, they can go haywire from pretty much anything and nothing. We can only find that some factors were underweighted or overweighted by the medical community under some circumstances. Depending on what definition of "depression" gets used.

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