Well, now, that's actually interesting. I'll have to check back in 7-8 years, when used models should have depreciated down to half that price, and see if it makes sense to buy one.
The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
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Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#52I'm not really anticipating being a car buyer for another half decade, but the #1 thing I want to judge the industry by & see progressing is MPGe (or kWh per 100km elsewhere). How efficient is your vehicle? Leaving everyone to go figure out efficiency obfuscates what should be a defining characteristics of these offerings!
Is there really much room for improvement on efficiency without moving to very different form-factors?
I would have figured that rolling resistance and air resistance account for the huge majority of the energy usage without much room for improvement over eg a Model 3, unless you make it look like an F1 car or give it solid tires or something.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#53If any automaker can make a car that meets these criteria, I will buy one immediately: * it is available, new, at my local dealer, for * it will enable me to travel to a destination 1.5 hr away, and return, without stopping to charge * it has a reliable fast-charging network * doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer I don't really think I'm asking for much.
A Model 3 literally does all of that, except for the bit about wanting to get it at a "dealer", which I suspect you included precisely to avoid buying the Tesla. So, I guess you'll have to wait. Or you could get a car delivered to your driveway for you like the rest of us urchins. But maybe that's just a bridge too far.
I ninja-edited in a requirement that I forgot: doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer. The Model 3 sort of meets the above but the phone-home connectivity (and poor after-sales support) are deal breakers for me.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#54If any automaker can make a car that meets these criteria, I will buy one immediately: * it is available, new, at my local dealer, for * it will enable me to travel to a destination 1.5 hr away, and return, without stopping to charge * it has a reliable fast-charging network * doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer I don't really think I'm asking for much.
Which one of those does this not meet? The available inventory?
And it will never be inventory, base models are never stocked. With the 1LT at $35K and the 2LT at $43K it seems clear that the $35K is just a teaser price and there will be lots of obstacles thrown up if you actually want the 1LT.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#55I'm not really anticipating being a car buyer for another half decade, but the #1 thing I want to judge the industry by & see progressing is MPGe (or kWh per 100km elsewhere). How efficient is your vehicle? Leaving everyone to go figure out efficiency obfuscates what should be a defining characteristics of these offerings!
Pretty sure that's a feature.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#56I just can’t get excited about large EVs anymore. We need cheaper, smaller EVs in the US yesterday. Looking at the options China and Europe have and comparing to what we have you can really get the sense that car companies here only care about making SUVs/trucks/and _some_ crossovers electric but don’t actually care about making small cars electric because of one thing.. profit. They know they’ll make more money on t…
If regulation is needed to force the existence of electric cars around the 20k mark, that means nobody wants to buy them now
How do you figure?
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which one of those does this not meet? The available inventory?
I guess Tesla doesn't have dealerships, so technically it excludes the Model 3 (which does meet all other criteria). Edit: He stealth-edited "doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer" into the list, so I think the point of the comment is just, "I want an EV that's as good as a Tesla but isn't a Tesla."
It might fail his "doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer" criteria.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Model 3 literally does all of that, except for the bit about wanting to get it at a "dealer", which I suspect you included precisely to avoid buying the Tesla. So, I guess you'll have to wait. Or you could get a car delivered to your driveway for you like the rest of us urchins. But maybe that's just a bridge too far.
I ninja-edited in a requirement that I forgot: doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer. The Model 3 sort of meets the above but the phone-home connectivity (and poor after-sales support) are deal breakers for me.
Come on. If it was a deal-breaker, you wouldn't have forgotten it. Your criteria is simply "no Teslas". Which is fine, if that's the case. I'm not going to tell you what to buy. But trying to construct technical arguments around a brand decision just leads you to silly places like this one.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#59I know someone with a 6 year old Tesla X that now has a range of around 120 miles. This is becoming a serious impediment for them. What happens to all the buyers of these vehicles when their range is halved before their life expectancy is up? Needing to pony up another $10-15k will probably be unaffordable for the average Joe.
There's no way this is true. That would be over 50% battery degradation and it's completed covered within the 8 year warranty. Battery failures happen, but no 6 year old Tesla is at 60% battery degradation without a system failure. Also, lithium ion batteries are almost entirely recyclable. Once we've mined enough and have a good recycling process in place, this will become more affordable for your average person.
Or they've been Ubering with it and put a million miles on.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#60Oh boy, another unnecessarily large crossover gets stats that would have been perfectly achievable if they just made a normal-ass sedan