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Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

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Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

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post #19

"The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between 2019 and 2020..." "We have data from over 200 cities showing a 12.2% decline ... in 2023 relative to 2022,...." It's so annoying that even "good" news outlets like NPR are incompetent when it comes to showing statistical data. There is no good reason to mix city rates vs country rates or speak only in percentages instead of absolute numbers. Some…

NPR is no longer a "good" news outlet.

I am not aware of any "good" news outlets, unless it's one of the wire services that give you one sentence feeds per news item.

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#53

Crime has to do with age demographics. It means the demographic pyramid is messed up.

The change over the last 2 years is disjointed from any demographic changes. Consider COVID changed the demographics in your favor, yet we still see decreasing violent crime

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#55
post #29
post #6

> There are some outliers to this trend — murder rates are up in Washington, D.C. Carjacking is also pretty rampant now

Carjacking is rampant in large part because of what Kia did, which really ought to land that company in a lake of civil liability. Carjacking, at least as it's practiced in Chicagoland, starts with a burner car that rolls up on the victim to disgorge the armed robbers. Kias, which can be hotwired with a broken USB cable, offered carjackers a literal citywide fleet of burner vehicles.

That's a fascinating argument then Kia's weakness is an explainable phone to an access other otherwise secure cars.

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#56
post #49

So a Gallup poll that doesn't ask about violent crime is used as evidence that people are misguided about violent crime? How does that work?

I maintain my position that "the content is horseshit" should be added to the list of reasons to flag a submission. Lot of poorly-researched nonsense stays on the front page far too long.

I flag these articles but no one cares. People upvote based on politics, and downvote permissions are restricted.

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#57

> "The national picture shows that murder is falling. We have data from over 200 cities showing a 12.2% decline ... in 2023 relative to 2022," Asher said, citing his own analysis of public data. He found instances of rape, robbery and aggravated assault were all down too. > A Gallup poll released in November found 77% of Americans believed there was more crime in the country than the year before. And 63% felt there w…

"And honestly, people conflate that with crime, with street safety," she said. "One thing I'm starting to learn in reporting on public safety is that you can put numbers in front of people all day, and numbers just don't speak to people the way narrative does."

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#58
post #19

"The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between 2019 and 2020..." "We have data from over 200 cities showing a 12.2% decline ... in 2023 relative to 2022,...." It's so annoying that even "good" news outlets like NPR are incompetent when it comes to showing statistical data. There is no good reason to mix city rates vs country rates or speak only in percentages instead of absolute numbers. Some…

Is there a risk referring to statistical percent of 1991? From that site, I think it's fine to say we're currently living through 50% of 1991 levels.

Re: Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. – even if Americans don't believe it

#59
post #2

[[even if americans dont believe it]]- form of gaslighting.

Or, the media is gaslighting people to think violent crime is up even if it’s not. Which is a rational possibility since reporting crime has political motivations.
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