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Cloud Egress Costs
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#52The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…
I saw a hilarious fuck up a few months ago. Company sets up an AWS hosted always on VPN solution. Connects 1000 staff through it. Celebrates how they saved $50k on the VPN solution. Gets $25k AWS bill for the just the first month of egress traffic. Turns out the data was leaving AWS egress three separate times.
how were they spending that 50k previously? a bespoke saas thing or self hosting?
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#53Isn’t this what makes cloudflare’s R2 a great proposition? No egress costs with very competitive storage and operation pricing. It’s not as mature as the others, I don’t believe you can use your own encryption key for example, but why would anyone starting out not choose R2? Hopefully they push the market in their direction.
R2 is an insane value proposition. We calculated the cost of moving HLS video delivery to it and unless you are delivering a huge amount of traffic, the costs are far lower. Highly recommend you consider it, assuming you are willing/able to handle appropriate transcoding yourself (if not, Cloudflare has it's Stream product)
What is 'appropriate transcoding'?
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#54AWS egress is one of if not the biggest costs on our bill, it’s downright criminal.
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#55Isn't GCP egress also free by now? https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/networking/eliminatin...
That's probably how they wanted you to read it, but in fact it's only free if you are transferring it out and shutting down your account
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#56Isn't GCP egress also free by now? https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/networking/eliminatin...
That seems to be specifically about the transfer fees that kick in when you're leaving GCP. It looks like there's an application process to get the free egress for moving off the cloud, so they haven't just done away with egress costs altogether.
This article is about egress costs for just operating a service that talks to the outside world, not just when migrating data to a new service.
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#57I had no idea it was this crazy expensive. I can host a 1 TB folder of movies on my Google Fiber internet Synology NAS website, and let my friend download it for free. But if I hosted my website on Google Cloud, they bill me $111.60? How are these cloud services getting away with this pricing?
> let my friend download it for free
Except you paid the cost for the fiber connection. You also get one more 9 of reliability from their DC.
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#58This website is missing Wasabi [0], which has free egress. (Not necessarily endorsing, just noticed.) [0]: https://wasabi.com
heavily recommending against wasabi, they increased prices recently and announced this via their newsletter, the one with an unsubscribe button, and then blamed me for unsubscribing (and never refunded the charge). highly unprofessional and a lack of understanding of the GDPR for someone who is supposed to hold all your data.
Do a credit card charge back and unsubscribe from the service (if they let you unsubscribe, lol)... If they don't let you unsubscribe, report your card stolen (I do that once in a while).
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#59I had no idea it was this crazy expensive. I can host a 1 TB folder of movies on my Google Fiber internet Synology NAS website, and let my friend download it for free. But if I hosted my website on Google Cloud, they bill me $111.60? How are these cloud services getting away with this pricing?
Your little NAS is not directly connected to hundreds of metro areas around the globe. Even on Google Fiber, which is an excellent network, you only have a few dozen points of exchange, all in America. As a Google Cloud customer your egress traffic will be on Google's network all the way to the very edges of the world, at hundreds of interconnect points and exchanges. Your traffic will be on private networks until it…
Except they will charge you the same extortionate egress fees for outbound traffic from a single compute instance ("an apple"), no global content delivery network involved ("a diamond").
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases My theory: it forces third party services into the same cloud. Suppose you use AWS and you want to pay a third party SaaS provider for some service involving moderate-to-large amounts of data. Here’s one of many examples: https://www.snowflake.com/en/data-cloud/pricing-options/ And look at this remarkable choice: you get to pick AWS…
Snowflake's margins are like 90%+ on top of the compute they sell, and they pass on all these costs including egress directly to customers.
Their list price for storage capacity is only on the order of 2x what S3 charges, and Snowflake and S3 likely both offer discounts. Comparing compute costs is harder.
If I were running a service like Snowflake, I would certainly appreciate the effortless scaling that the major clouds offer. But I also know what I pay for actual servers and roughly what I would pay in a major cloud, and I much prefer the former.