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Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Re: Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Post by nickd2001 »

Challenge 1. "Soaring rents and house prices" Challenge 2. Lots of immigrants wanting a decent job and competing with existent population to apply for these.

In a country with as much undeveloped land as Canada has, I think, there might be a win-win solution to be had here? ;)

OK ok, to be fair it takes a little while to train as builders, electricians, plasterers etc etc, but it does seem like Canada has the solution right in front of them. Just build a couple more Torontos, and, problem solved?

Re: Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Post by betaby »

nickd2001 wrote: post #51

Challenge 1. "Soaring rents and house prices" Challenge 2. Lots of immigrants wanting a decent job and competing with existent population to apply for these. In a country with as much undeveloped land as Canada has, I think, there might be a win-win solution to be had here? ;) OK ok, to be fair it takes a little while to train as builders, electricians, plasterers etc etc, but it does seem like Canada has the solutio…

Please show on the map where would you prefer a New Toronto located.

Re: Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Post by nickd2001 »

betaby wrote: post #52
nickd2001 wrote: post #51

Challenge 1. "Soaring rents and house prices" Challenge 2. Lots of immigrants wanting a decent job and competing with existent population to apply for these. In a country with as much undeveloped land as Canada has, I think, there might be a win-win solution to be had here? ;) OK ok, to be fair it takes a little while to train as builders, electricians, plasterers etc etc, but it does seem like Canada has the solutio…

Please show on the map where would you prefer a New Toronto located.

That's probably up to Canadians to decide. But there's quite a lot of space. ;). Joking aside, this sort of thing was done in the UK years ago. places like Milton Keynes, Crawley, Stevenage. Its not without its issues. and not a simple endeavour. But really, its laughable to someone living in a crowded country, that one of the most , in parts, sparsely populated countries in the world, isn't apparently looking into this. It'd be a 10-15 yr plan perhaps to implement. But with government commitment, the right tax incentives etc. Look how much China has built out in the last 20 yrs. Edit- cold winters are an issue in parts of Canada but climate change is actually opening up new areas, right?

Re: Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Post by waldohatesyou »

nickd2001 wrote: post #53
betaby wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please show on the map where would you prefer a New Toronto located.

That's probably up to Canadians to decide. But there's quite a lot of space. ;). Joking aside, this sort of thing was done in the UK years ago. places like Milton Keynes, Crawley, Stevenage. Its not without its issues. and not a simple endeavour. But really, its laughable to someone living in a crowded country, that one of the most , in parts, sparsely populated countries in the world, isn't apparently looking into t…

This is a very silly idea, Canada's population isn't even that large. Why would we build new cities that have no economic basis when we could just scale up our existing cities? Toronto could be a megacity but it isn't currently.

Re: Canada Must End Reliance on Cheap Foreign Labor, Minister Says

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Post by nickd2001 »

waldohatesyou wrote: post #55
nickd2001 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's probably up to Canadians to decide. But there's quite a lot of space. ;). Joking aside, this sort of thing was done in the UK years ago. places like Milton Keynes, Crawley, Stevenage. Its not without its issues. and not a simple endeavour. But really, its laughable to someone living in a crowded country, that one of the most , in parts, sparsely populated countries in the world, isn't apparently looking into t…

This is a very silly idea, Canada's population isn't even that large. Why would we build new cities that have no economic basis when we could just scale up our existing cities? Toronto could be a megacity but it isn't currently.

Such a thing has been done in the UK - as for "no economic basis" - Wikipedia says "Milton Keynes is among the most economically productive localities in the UK, ranking highly against a number of criteria. It has the UK's fifth-highest number of business startups per capita" This "very silly idea" been done and proven in the UK, when overcrowding made it necessary, and quite likely other countries - I bet China's done it. Why does any new city start? Historically its often been due to a natural resource that could be traded, transport links or some such, but there's no reason why this couldn't be jump started as has been done in the UK. Especially now with tech and many people WFH. Also from what I heard, Toronto was already considered a hideous sprawl, not necessarily desirable to further extend.
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