I wish Apple would apin off their x86 OSX as a separate company. I would love to see it compete with Microsoft Windows.
They tried to do such a thing with IBM back in 1995-96. Didn't work out.
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I wish Apple would apin off their x86 OSX as a separate company. I would love to see it compete with Microsoft Windows.
They tried to do such a thing with IBM back in 1995-96. Didn't work out.
I wish Apple would apin off their x86 OSX as a separate company. I would love to see it compete with Microsoft Windows.
As someone who uses macOS for 11 years as the daily driver for his work, I can just say that it would be a bloodbath. Not only is the driver support abysmal, kext are gone, and the actual quality of macOS has declined significantly over the years. 10 years ago, there was the rule of thumb to wait one update before you do the “big” OS upgrade, now it's better to wait for 3–4 updates as Sanoma crashes on our working ma…
Wonder if your M1 might have a hardware defect lurking, though — the vast majority of kernel panics on real macs come from hardware malfunctioning.
I wish Apple would apin off their x86 OSX as a separate company. I would love to see it compete with Microsoft Windows.
As someone who uses macOS for 11 years as the daily driver for his work, I can just say that it would be a bloodbath. Not only is the driver support abysmal, kext are gone, and the actual quality of macOS has declined significantly over the years. 10 years ago, there was the rule of thumb to wait one update before you do the “big” OS upgrade, now it's better to wait for 3–4 updates as Sanoma crashes on our working ma…
On the topic of Hackintoshes: They are becoming more and more obsolet with Apples focus on Apple Silicon, Neural Engines and so on. Not spec or price wise, but regarding feature parity and Apples OS support for the Intel architecture. Lots of old „Hackintoshers“ abandoning the hobby.
Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
Initially I just did it because I assembled a pretty good PC for gaming, but for work stuff I liked macOS more, so dual booting was a nice option!
This was also before the M-series chips, where you had to pay a hefty premium to get better Intel processors, and also (imo) Apple increasingly struggled with the heat produced by the chips.
Things got a bit more annoying a couple years later, when Apple had their fallout with NVIDIA and would not sign their drivers anymore, which meant I had to buy a cheap AMD GPU to use for macOS.
End of last year I changed a couple of components, including the GPU, in my PC and then decided the hassle with two GPUs was just not worth it for me anymore; so I bought a Mac studio.
I gained some and lost some with this transition. I'm no longer worried about major software updates, it's nice that I don't have to deal with complicated config files for the bootloader every once in a while, and of course there were some minor bugs too.
But I kind of miss the convenience of dual booting, with shared IO and drives. Now I need a network switch, USB-hub and have to toggle between monitor inputs. So yeah! Wasn't all bad!
Anyways, I think it's very cool that there is this community of people that write and maintain special bootloaders and drivers to make it all possible!
As much as I love Hackintoshes, they can be a huge time sink if you want 1-1 feature parity with an equivalent Apple product. It is not too difficult getting Hackintoshes to install and boot to the desktop in this day and age thanks to Dortania’s OpenCore guide and contributions from groups like Acidanthera. However, it takes far more time, effort, research, and trial-and-error to get small things working because there are so many different variants and situations to account for. Examples - Wifi/BT and Continuity features require cards pulled directly from a recent MacBook, or a Fenvi card, both of which no longer work with Sonoma without using OCLP / CPU profiles might need adjustment to account for battery life and performance issues / Intel SST was never used with MacOS devices, so any computers using Ice Lake Intel CPUs and Intel SST can’t have a working built-in microphone or headphone jack, etc. Reliability is a pain as well. Anything can break at any time.
At this point, I’ve come to learn that if you want a macOS device that just works, you are better off just getting a new Mac mini (desktop) or MacBook Air/Pro (laptop). I understand the arguments against this (high costs for specs, lack of repairability, intentional sabotage of repairs with third-party parts, used market is a gamble with ADE/MDM and iCloud locks, lack of customization with other computer components, etc). But I (fortunately) have never had issues with any of my MacBooks or Mac minis. And they have always “just worked” for my use cases.
Hackintoshes make for great fun projects where you do not rely on that computer for day-to-day operations. Though the ability to Hackintosh may soon be impossible with newer OS versions. It is only a matter of time since Apple is moving away from Intel x86 processors, which is part of what allowed Hackintoshes to be possible in the first place.
Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
I dream of a day when I can daily drive Linux and also do dev on iOS, but currently that’s not really possible without some unacceptable compromise. I’ve done quite a bit of research and have yet to find a viable solution (recommendations welcome).
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A few examples: using vmware fusion provides an option to enable nested virtualization 1) running a windows vm from macos, and inside that windows vm you enable and use WSL2 or docker desktop. Both of those windows tools require nested virtualization 2) run a hypervisor such as esxi or proxmox as the vm OS, which in turn launches vms. Handy for simulating infra. 3) run a macos vm and inside that vm, install docker de…
I want to say that's so cool, but why so manu vms are needed? Isn't possible to run all of this on hackintosh directly without VMception?
Compare to a modern mac mini has a strict limit of 2 macos vms, no hyperthreading , no nested virt and CPU optimized for vertical integration.
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I never really understood it either. And I'm someone who (only moderately successfully) used to run Linux on various Mac laptops. I had the opposite problem: I really really really liked Mac hardware, but was kinda meh on the OS. I think in the mid-00s I could understand Hackintosh users to some extent. Mac hardware was (and still is) expensive, and OS X was a really nice, developer-friendly OS. But macOS has gotten…
Maybe I'm just too rich to appreciate it these days but a, say, 1-year old used mac mini m2 looks like it can be snatched for around $499 on ebay. The PC equivalent, probably a 2023 Dell Optiplex 7010, for instance, looks to be just about the same amount ($449). Compare https://www.ebay.com/itm/364218215167 with https://www.ebay.com/itm/276266965157 I think we've hit the commodity price point market with used Apple h…
Like look at this: https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-Mercury-6400MHz-PCIe4-0-Co...
For $400 you get a brand new system with 4 times the RAM, twice the storage. And it can be further upgraded down the line to more RAM and storage if you need it.
I have used this EFI folder for my own HP Pavilion Aero 13! It works for the most part! I even commented in some of the issues for that GitHub repo a few months back… However, I had issues with sleep/wake. This has been the common pain point for me when working with Hackintoshes. There are a lot of things that can break sleep/wake, and I rely heavily on that feature working without issue. As much as I love Hackintosh…
Wound up back in windows for a bit and now have been on Linux for a few years. Much happier just running Linux at this point.
I'm not sure how much longer it will be before Apple kills off x86 support altogether and a modern hackintosh is simply no longer an option.