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Re: Folk Computer

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refulgentis wrote: post #23
joshmarinacci wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was gonna say, this sounds a lot like continuing the research of Dynamicland, which itself contained research from CDA, VPRI, and other groups. Why is it so hard to find a consistent funder of basic research like PARC in the 70s?

Honestly and respectfully, would you be clambering to fund this? It's disturbing how little actually came out of dynamic land, and now there's a schism where the founders are pasting QR codes to hands and have as their 3rd bullet point "GPU FFI shaders"? Does any of that scream fundamental UX research, or the future of computing? To me, it's just another tired retread of half-baked messianic thinking that tails off i…

Is computing good enough as a literacy that anyone can use it to model complex ideas? Computers are simulators and can be used to model almost anything, sadly most people just use it to model old media (images, movies, text documents). As an example, can your [insert elderly relative] program it the same way he/she can probably string together multiple words to express a complicated idea.

Re: Folk Computer

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AlphaWeaver wrote: post #37

This is so refreshing! As sibling commenter [0] mentions, this is clearly inspired by Dynamicland, and even uses the "Claim/When" syntax that Dynamicland uses to implement their "Realtalk" operating system. When Omar's post about Dynamicland [1] hit the front page last month, I was frustrated by how little information was available about the project. It seems that the folks behind Dynamicland were very against sharin…

Bret does plan on publishing everything soon - https://twitter.com/worrydream/status/1753116042254340526

Re: Folk Computer

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mortenjorck wrote: post #30
ryanwhitney wrote: post #8

Both seem to have worked at/with Dynamicland previously, though not mentioned on this site. https://omar.website/posts/notes-from-dynamicland-geokit/ https://cwervo.com/projects/dynamicland-experiments/

The moment I saw papercraft, computer vision, and a projector, I thought this had to have some relation. I’ve never been able to resolve a clear position for myself on Dynamicland. I’ve long admired Brett Victor’s work, and I have only the fondest appreciation for the project's philosophy and the enthusiasm with which Victor writes about it. The only problem is that I’ve never been able to figure out even the first t…

It's a bit unfortunate that people can't look past the projections and the dot frames/QR codes. Those are just a means to an end, which is trying to simulate a world where all objects have the ability to compute and can be easily reprogrammed on the fly.

Imagine a future 20 years from now where color e-ink is as cheap and ubiquitous as wood pulp paper, and microchips are so small and cheap the can be embedded in everything. DynamicLand seems to be a peek into what living in that that world could be like.

Re: Folk Computer

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Post by infinite8s »

It's a bit unfortunate that people can't look past the projections and the dot frames/QR codes. Those are just a means to an end, which is trying to simulate a world where all objects have the ability to compute and can be easily reprogrammed on the fly.

Imagine a future 20 years from now where color e-ink is as cheap and ubiquitous as wood pulp paper, and microchips are so small and cheap they can be embedded in everything. Folk (and DynamicLand which inspired it) seems to be a peek into what living in that world could be like.

Bret plans on publishing all their experiments this Spring - https://twitter.com/worrydream/status/1753116042254340526. I for one cannot wait.

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