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Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

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Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#51

Some feedback: When you start the intro, and it says "Hi, what language do you want to learn" the button should be labeled "Select..." not a default language. It was unclear I had to click it to select a different language. The languages in the app, and on your FAQ about which languages are available, aren't in sync.

One other thing is with alphabets. If I highlight over a word, and you could show me how to sound out the word in latin characters, that would be super helpful and no other language app I know of does that.

What language were you learning? B.c. if you click on the settings you can already enable pronunciations (though only in some languages)

The "Select..." makes a lot of sense

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#52
post #49

Wow, I just tried it, and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for (something that actually makes you think conversationally, not just memorize vocabulary). Love the rebrand, by the way - I saw your posts about Quazle, and I never wanted to try it then for some reason. Can’t really explain it, but I guess that’s the power of branding right? One suggestion I would have is that it takes a while when I click on a word…

Also, I wouldn’t really worry about Duolingo - they cater to people who want to _feel_ like they are learning a language (for 2-5 mins a day), not people who actually want to make progress. Even if they release features like this, they won’t be competing with you. Duolingo is also the worst example of inappropriate gamification I’ve ever seen.

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#53

That's interesting. I just ran a session in english to french starting by writing /replying in english then adding french words in the sentence at the end to see how it reacts. - The errors in my english sentences, mainly word order and missing articles, are involuntary and the corrections are reasonably coherent with deepl and deepl writer (that also uses AI). - the french words were correctly identified as french w…

Could not have hoped for more :)

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#54
post #49

Wow, I just tried it, and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for (something that actually makes you think conversationally, not just memorize vocabulary). Love the rebrand, by the way - I saw your posts about Quazle, and I never wanted to try it then for some reason. Can’t really explain it, but I guess that’s the power of branding right? One suggestion I would have is that it takes a while when I click on a word…

Yeah, as a technical person, I was also surprised by what a big impact branding can make.

Re:loading You can click on the message itself and you'll get the translation of the entire message. Preloading the translation of every word would be a bit costly, but we could probably squeeze a bit more performance out of it.

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#55
post #33

Neat app. How do you measure linguistic progress? >* The hard part intervenes when you try to replicate the progress tracking and tailoring of the curriculum.* Perhaps you guys just aren't thinking about it in the right way ;) Progress tracking and measurement is significantly easier from a conceptual standpoint than you might think. I'm not just bullshitting here - I've actually done it myself so I'm speaking from e…

Absolutely agree on the slang stuff. Progress tracking is hard to do at scale in completely open-ended conversations since there are so many degrees of freedom within one conversation. If you have any tips and tricks, these would be much appreciated :)

>Progress tracking is hard to do at scale in completely open-ended conversations since there are so many degrees of freedom within one conversation.

You're overthinking it, my friend. The solution is much simpler than you realize. Email me.

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#56
post #12

Talking works great! But I struggle to give reasonable answers because I do not speak my language of choice. I understood all though. So suggestion: offer on option to learn something new and practice verbs.

Did you already try out the guided mode? If not you can always switch in a conversation on the top left chat settings, by pressing on the cogwheel and then switching to guided. Hope this is something that could help you!

There’s definitely a gap for going from zero to something.

The guided conversation is too many words at once, it’s overwhelming. I immediately see a prompt to assemble two sentences from a list of words I don’t know without translations or hints. It’s the opposite problem of Duolingo drilling the same phrase a dozen times a day.

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#57
post #52
post #49

Wow, I just tried it, and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for (something that actually makes you think conversationally, not just memorize vocabulary). Love the rebrand, by the way - I saw your posts about Quazle, and I never wanted to try it then for some reason. Can’t really explain it, but I guess that’s the power of branding right? One suggestion I would have is that it takes a while when I click on a word…

Also, I wouldn’t really worry about Duolingo - they cater to people who want to _feel_ like they are learning a language (for 2-5 mins a day), not people who actually want to make progress. Even if they release features like this, they won’t be competing with you. Duolingo is also the worst example of inappropriate gamification I’ve ever seen.

Duolingo is good at going from nothing to something. That’s important.

I noticed in this app, trying a language I don’t know, I immediately get blocked on lesson 1 step 2 - my answer is wrong, but I know nothing and there are zero mechanisms to learn without prior context to guess and extrapolate upon.

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#59
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely agree on the slang stuff. Progress tracking is hard to do at scale in completely open-ended conversations since there are so many degrees of freedom within one conversation. If you have any tips and tricks, these would be much appreciated :)

> Progress tracking is hard to do at scale in completely open-ended conversations since there are so many degrees of freedom within one conversation. You're overthinking it, my friend. The solution is much simpler than you realize. Email me.

Why not post the solution here in this thread? If you're going to write it out in an email anyways...

Re: Launch HN: Univerbal (YC W23) – Language learning with a conversational AI tutor

#60

Very impressive. My only comment is that it wasn't immediately clear whether I needed to click the microphone icon each time I wanted to respond or not.

But when it was activated it was clear that it was activated. Or was should that also be shown more clearly?
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