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Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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This is yet another instance of people simply not understanding what R&D spending means in the context of tech. Most employee salaries are R&D. Cloud compute is R&D. Any expense related to developing any of their existing products or services gets categorized under that bucket, and they get tax breaks on it.

R&D does not only mean new research.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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Money likely spent on crap. Apple is now a really bloated company that barely innovates, and now with plenty of governments breathing on its neck. Just look at how many IPhone models exists nowadays, Steve Jobs would be shocked to see Apple in 2024.

Apple is one of the most successful business on the planet, and has been for years. Jobs would be shocked to see how big of a money pool he could swim in.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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If you go back to Steve Jobs' original iPhone speech, the crux of it was: revolutionary user interfaces (mouse, click wheel, multi-touch) enabled revolutionary products (Mac, iPod, iPhone). And while we know the LG Prada shipped with a capacitive touchscreen that's a technicality: LG took the UI of a feature phone, minimally adjusted it for touch and that was it. Meanwhile Apple took their desktop OS and shrunk it to…

I’m really hoping they crack that nut. I’m not diabetic, but I do wonder what would happen when someone figures it out.

All of a sudden you could basically put real time glucose monitors on a huge chunk of the population with all sorts of medical conditions or none at all.

What could we accidentally learn from that that no one was ever looking for?

The benefits to diabetics are obvious and life changing unless you already have a CGM. And if we never learn anything we didn’t already know it would still be a fantastic improvement. But what if there is more?

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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post #40

If you go back to Steve Jobs' original iPhone speech, the crux of it was: revolutionary user interfaces (mouse, click wheel, multi-touch) enabled revolutionary products (Mac, iPod, iPhone). And while we know the LG Prada shipped with a capacitive touchscreen that's a technicality: LG took the UI of a feature phone, minimally adjusted it for touch and that was it. Meanwhile Apple took their desktop OS and shrunk it to…

I’m really hoping they crack that nut. I’m not diabetic, but I do wonder what would happen when someone figures it out. All of a sudden you could basically put real time glucose monitors on a huge chunk of the population with all sorts of medical conditions or none at all. What could we accidentally learn from that that no one was ever looking for? The benefits to diabetics are obvious and life changing unless you al…

Trust me my friend, even if you have a CGM the benefits would be gigantic.

I can't speak for T1 people who spend their entire lives like this and maybe it gets easier but inserting the CGM sensor, even if you use a local anesthetics is unpleasant and psychologically taxing. Then it interferes with your daily life and more importantly, it interferes with your mental health. Do you need a visual, can-be-felt reminder every second of your life you have a disability? I thought not.

I have worn one and made my own meal plans while doing so and then stopped wearing them and I am fine, I can control my own blood sugar fine with just eating well, I am now down to six month blood sugar checks just to make sure I do not relapse. Still, having a non-invasive check so you can more easily test new stuff would be more than welcome.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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I don't think he would be shocked to see this comment, though, since it is materially identical to the complaints I remember reading circa 2010 and is as willfully ignorant of the Vision Pro as those complaints were of the iPad, and later the Apple Watch and the AirPods (when 'the FBI will destroy Apple's privacy edge' was the government conflict du jour). I don't mean to come across as standoffish here, it's just, t…

> as willfully ignorant of the Vision Pro as those complaints were of the iPad, and later the Apple Watch and the AirPods These are the evidence of the opposite. Apple's hardware from the 70s and 80s, like the original Macintosh, were something special. NeXTSTEP, the Steve Jobs thing that got rebranded as Mac OS X when Apple bought them, was the first modern OS to be simultaneously good and popular. The iPhone change…

>If the Apple II was the 70s and the Macintosh was the 80s and NeXTSTEP was the 90s and the iPhone was the 2000s, name the thing of this caliber they did in the 2010s.

Arguably, the iPod was 2000s and the iPhone was 2010s. The iPhone really didn't get started until the iPhone 3GS in middle-2009 so it started slowly but really defined the 2010s for Apple.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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post #40

If you go back to Steve Jobs' original iPhone speech, the crux of it was: revolutionary user interfaces (mouse, click wheel, multi-touch) enabled revolutionary products (Mac, iPod, iPhone). And while we know the LG Prada shipped with a capacitive touchscreen that's a technicality: LG took the UI of a feature phone, minimally adjusted it for touch and that was it. Meanwhile Apple took their desktop OS and shrunk it to…

> Even if we had an inclination of what they are cooking, figuring it out is near impossible. And we don't.

This is some sort of strange myth-making. Making a touchscreen phone had been the writing on the wall and pretty obvious to many. Having a company set up and willing to do it and do it well is another matter. But it doesn't mean you can't see things coming.

Ideas and execution are not the same.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AirPods are earbuds. They're nice earbuds, but it's hardly the next iPhone.

Why weren’t there tons of earbuds that looked like AirPods before the AirPods came out? Two independent things that weren’t linked with a wire that you could put in a charging case? I seem to remember there was one other similar looking device at the time, I think from Samsung. But it wasn’t as small and got terrible battery life. There was absolutely nothing like them at the time in the category.

> Why weren’t there tons of earbuds that looked like AirPods before the AirPods came out? Two independent things that weren’t linked with a wire that you could put in a charging case?

Because making them that way is more expensive.

> There was absolutely nothing like them at the time in the category.

iPhone: There is now a usable internet-connected general-purpose computer in your pocket.

AirPods: We got rid of the piece of wire between your earbuds.

It's not the same thing.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why weren’t there tons of earbuds that looked like AirPods before the AirPods came out? Two independent things that weren’t linked with a wire that you could put in a charging case? I seem to remember there was one other similar looking device at the time, I think from Samsung. But it wasn’t as small and got terrible battery life. There was absolutely nothing like them at the time in the category.

> Why weren’t there tons of earbuds that looked like AirPods before the AirPods came out? Two independent things that weren’t linked with a wire that you could put in a charging case? Because making them that way is more expensive. > There was absolutely nothing like them at the time in the category. iPhone: There is now a usable internet-connected general-purpose computer in your pocket. AirPods: We got rid of the p…

> iPhone: There is now a usable internet-connected general-purpose computer in your pocket. AirPods: We got rid of the piece of wire between your earbuds.

Most people who have AirPods didn’t have earbuds with the wire. Those who did didn’t wear them like AirPods. The iPhone is a computer in your pocket you interact with through touch. AirPods are computers in your ears you interact with through voice. Especially with LLMs, the latter is a huge step forward.

Also, the processing power in an AirPod outclasses Apollo 11’s; if we’re going to go full tech reductionist, it’s still a feat.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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post #51

This is yet another instance of people simply not understanding what R&D spending means in the context of tech. Most employee salaries are R&D. Cloud compute is R&D. Any expense related to developing any of their existing products or services gets categorized under that bucket, and they get tax breaks on it. R&D does not only mean new research.

This is correct and should top the thread.

Re: Apple Ramps Up R&D Intensity to Pre-iPhone Levels

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Unfortunately no, and I should mention a cursory search turns up known driverless startups active in Mountain View - so I think unless any other HNster has better evidence, treat me as hearsay. I also shouldn't oversell them, the ones I've seen look 'slick' in that they are similar to other well-polished LIDAR test vehicles that aren't just a bunch of sensors bolted to a roof rack, and they're 'mysterious' in that th…

For context, this is what Apple's autonomous vehicles look like: https://dmxvlyap9srmn.cloudfront.net/article/pictures/8e1f6d... They're Lexus' with mattresses on the roof. Ghost has a weird pattern and their name on the sides of the vehicle. Nuro is uses Prius' mostly. Woven planet/Toyota tends to have slicker looking vehicles. They're the right vehicle in this picture: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.files.wordp…

What is attached to the back wheel in the Apple photo?
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