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Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by argiopetech »

Sakos wrote: post #41

Honestly, I'm more interested in keyboards that use vowels or other combinations to write over something like this. It's interesting, but I never need to write anything anyway. But the ability to type much faster would be helpful in certain situations.

If you haven't seen it one of the many dozen times it's been here, Plover - Open Steno Project https://www.openstenoproject.org/plover/, allows machine stenography (write a letter, syllable, word, or phrase with one chorded stroke) on your phone or computer.

It's definitely faster, but it's a steep learning curve.

For a slightly easier learning curve, I suggest ASETNIOP - https://asetniop.com/. The are/were keyboards built with a single row (maybe + thumb keys) that speak ASETNIOP, but I can't seem to find any at the moment.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by Semaphor »

aidenn0 wrote: post #49
Semaphor wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if I were to ever use an iPhone (which I won’t), it bulks up phones even more. I already find modern phones far too large. I was thinking more of something like the Nokia E71 [0] or for a bigger screen, a slide out like the HTC Desire Z / T-Mobile G2 [1], both phones I had before, and loved at the time. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E71 [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z

You might like the Unihertz Titan series. The Titan Pocket is very similar to the E71: https://www.unihertz.com/products/titan-pocket

Ohh, that looks awesome. A bit thick, but otherwise great! My current one is only 2 years old, but I’m saving this.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by riversflow »

sam_goody wrote: post #7

I learnt Pittman shorthand (and some Greg), and taught it to my kids as a "secret code". They use it in class to jot notes the teacher cannot read :) Both of these make the writing faster, but reading slower. I once spoke the world's champion shorthand writer - I've forgotten her name. She said the even she cannot read shorthand as fast as regular text. Which made sense before computers, when a stenographer needs to…

English is flexible. Concise writing reads faster.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by aidenn0 »

Semaphor wrote: post #52
aidenn0 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might like the Unihertz Titan series. The Titan Pocket is very similar to the E71: https://www.unihertz.com/products/titan-pocket

Ohh, that looks awesome. A bit thick, but otherwise great! My current one is only 2 years old, but I’m saving this.

The Titan Slim is newer and thinner but has a > 4" screen on top of the keyboard, making it quite tall.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by Wistar »

jodrellblank wrote: post #45
tnel wrote: post #36

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I prefer Gregg shorthand to Pittman because Gregg doesn't require variable stroke width and thus it's easier to write with a ballpoint pen.

(Pitman doesn't require variable stroke width , but variable stroke darkness/pressure - important nitpick because you can vary pressure with a normal pencil, but need a fountain pen or uncommon carpenter's pencil for varying stroke width).

Most ballpoints aren’t very good at delivering variable stroke darkness, either.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by jbosh »

patch_collector wrote: post #47

Is anyone aware of any good iPad apps for writing notes in shorthand, then converting to text? I currently use an app called Nebo to write notes and journal entries, then convert them to text before uploading into other systems. It works well, and I really appreciate being able to get away from a keyboard, but I'm a much slower writer than typist.

Imagine the rennessaince in shorthand if this became a thing. It feels like the best of both worlds (writing and typing).

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by dsr_ »

csa wrote: post #8

I can’t even read my own cursive, so I can’t imagine how illegible my shorthand cursive would be. Does anyone have any experience with this that suggests that maybe it can be clearer than cursive? One can always hope…

For pure legibility, abandon cursive and shorthand of all forms. Learn technical lettering, and then relax it a little.

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by sswezey »

ossicones wrote: post #48
1f60c wrote: post #25

See also: Shavian alphabet https://www.shavian.info/alphabet/ Which has similar goals

I tried to learn Shavian and struggled with it because of its phonetic nature. Every time I wanted to spell something, I had to think about how I pronounce the word.

Also Shavian was designed around British sounds that makes using for Americans cumbersome

Re: Orthic Shorthand – Write as fast as you type

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Post by Semaphor »

aidenn0 wrote: post #55
Semaphor wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ohh, that looks awesome. A bit thick, but otherwise great! My current one is only 2 years old, but I’m saving this.

The Titan Slim is newer and thinner but has a > 4" screen on top of the keyboard, making it quite tall.

Yeah, I saw that. I’d like a combination of both :D But it will be at least another, maybe 2-3 years, so who knows what they’ll have out by then. I’d also have to check the support story.
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