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Off topic: How does nitter continue to work despite the recent Twitter/X API changes?
I'm curious why this isn't on the front page when it seems to have a pretty high points and comments to submission ratios, definitely higher than other things. I guess it was flagged?
Can Cloudflare not afford a communications director that could have maybe edited this for the CEO before he put this tone-deaf screed out on the internet? >"We fired ~40 sales people out of over 1,500 in our go to market org. That’s a normal quarter." If firing 40 people every quarter is normal for you then your company culture is fucked. >"Sadly, we don’t hire perfectly. We try to fire perfectly." Oof. It's bizarre…
Turnover in sales is often 25-40% across industries, some are voluntary, but just as many aren't. If about half of all departures are firings and Prince's numbers are accurate, then Cloudflare is significantly below the industry average.
Though, he does say "go to market org" and not "salespeople", so it might include other professions as well.
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> In the original video the the individual countered the first two by pointing out the fact their manager's communications to them were all positive. Did she? She literally says herself she hasn't closed a single sale since being hired there.
> Did she? errrr.... yes. she does. several times. ... > She literally says herself she hasn't closed a single sale since being hired there. If I hire a new engineer, part of my job managing them is to communicate to them that I expect them to release a new feature/bug fix to production by the end of their three month probation, and that release must go smoothly. If they clearly fck up their first release on the last…
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Thanks for the link. Not sure what was the point of her arguing though. Just for the Tik Tok video? It's not like you will argument yourself out of being terminated. I also find her argument forced. "Just because I haven't closed anything, it doesn't mean my performance hasn't been good", that's nonsense, it's sales, performance is valued on sales. Not closing a single sale in 5 months does not qualify as good perfor…
> ... you don't need 1v1s with your manager to find this. While that's true, it does sound like her direct manager was outright misleading her. Telling someone they're doing well when they're very much not (to the point their job is at risk) isn't constructive, and doesn't help anyone. Well, not unless the manager was purposely sabotaging the employee for some reason. It's more likely the manager is just an idiot tho…
I've had multiple coworkers or subordinates living in their own world and not understanding crystal clear feedback.
Can Cloudflare not afford a communications director that could have maybe edited this for the CEO before he put this tone-deaf screed out on the internet? >"We fired ~40 sales people out of over 1,500 in our go to market org. That’s a normal quarter." If firing 40 people every quarter is normal for you then your company culture is fucked. >"Sadly, we don’t hire perfectly. We try to fire perfectly." Oof. It's bizarre…
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Thanks for the link. Not sure what was the point of her arguing though. Just for the Tik Tok video? It's not like you will argument yourself out of being terminated. I also find her argument forced. "Just because I haven't closed anything, it doesn't mean my performance hasn't been good", that's nonsense, it's sales, performance is valued on sales. Not closing a single sale in 5 months does not qualify as good perfor…
from the video, I got the impression that cloudflare has a pretty standard 3 month ramp up period which, for her, ended right about thanksgiving. so it's not 5 months with no sales, it's a little over a month. and that month has two (three) major holidays that knock out ~2 weeks. so 5 months is suddenly more like ~3 weeks. and, if every 1:1 with a manager has been glowing and then you get fired 'for performance', the…
Sales can be hard because you have to build relationships with companies/people. If you compare a green sales agent against an entrenched veteran they will always look bad. The veteran sales person has contacts, revolving sales from existing companies and people they can hit up to drive new sales. The newb has none of that. The amount of time she was employed was not enough to determine that.
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Thanks for the link. Not sure what was the point of her arguing though. Just for the Tik Tok video? It's not like you will argument yourself out of being terminated. I also find her argument forced. "Just because I haven't closed anything, it doesn't mean my performance hasn't been good", that's nonsense, it's sales, performance is valued on sales. Not closing a single sale in 5 months does not qualify as good perfor…
from the video, I got the impression that cloudflare has a pretty standard 3 month ramp up period which, for her, ended right about thanksgiving. so it's not 5 months with no sales, it's a little over a month. and that month has two (three) major holidays that knock out ~2 weeks. so 5 months is suddenly more like ~3 weeks. and, if every 1:1 with a manager has been glowing and then you get fired 'for performance', the…
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Scroll to the top up the Tweet or click here: https://twitter.com/SMB_Attorney/status/1745609324544536778
The fact the she posted this video to TikTok tells me that Cloudfare did a good job laying her off. Asking those questions is fine, recording and posting on TikTok, or any social media platform, is not. I hope this doesn’t may her unemployable.
In fact, it makes me even doubt her account to some extent.