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Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by NicoJuicy »

neom wrote: post #18

Good for her for saying all the quiet parts out loud. Great post. I'm a big Matthew Prince fan, a big CloudFlare fan, and a shareholder. Sadly, this rubs me the wrong way...

Same here ( shares) , this was all mentioned last year around q1 on investor day for improving the sales department and firing underperformers:

https://softwarestackinvesting.com/cloudflare-net-q2-2023-ea... section: profitability

The idea, a year ago, was to replace underperformers by average performers in sales. That was the first round of layoffs that Cloudflare had and impacted ~ 100 people.

The girl in the video mentioned she didn't have a single sale. It seems consistent to me, I just hope the metric is fair.

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by neom »

KyleSanderson wrote: post #2

Plenty of these on LI today unfortunately. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/skoroleva_opentowork-techsale... https://twitter.com/BowTiedPassport/status/17451497589921956...

Yikes on that second link, I seriously hope she told them she was recording the call or she may run into some two-party consent issues.

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by whalesalad »

cortesoft wrote: post #24
whalesalad wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They self-regulate? That is bullshit, the environment regulates them.

Correct. The animal kingdom as a whole self regulates. We are effectively playing god every day and circumventing the natural processes of the world.

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by xpe »

whalesalad wrote: post #48
akira2501 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't ask to be born therefore I have no duties to you or to anyone other than myself. You accepted no duty to ensure my life was protected from harm or that it's circumstances were fair. You can talk sensibly about global reproductive control once you've ensured that everyone's life is fair and just. Humans are animals. We individually self regulate or we would die. We collectively don't which is why we were able…

Animals eat each other. They feed other animals. They spread seeds to propagate plant life. Their decomposing bodies fertilize the earth. There is an ecosystem that exists. Humans don’t have any predators. We’ve created a society where everyone feels entitled to exist. Animals don’t feel entitled to exist. They fight daily to survive. We fight daily to play the game that us humans created. It’s not real, it’s all fab…

> Animals eat each other. They feed other animals. They spread seeds to propagate plant life. Their decomposing bodies fertilize the earth. There is an ecosystem that exists. Humans don’t have any predators. We’ve created a society where everyone feels entitled to exist. Animals don’t feel entitled to exist. They fight daily to survive. We fight daily to play the game that us humans created. It’s not real, it’s all fabricated...

This is moral confusion. Nature does not set the ethical standards to which we aspire. See the naturalistic fallacy.

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by pc_edwin »

sneed_chucker wrote: post #3

I wonder if the US will ever get first-world tier labor laws that prevent companies from screwing people over like this. Doesn't seem likely any time soon, but it's so insane how healthcare and everything is tied to an employer and in most places they can just fire you on a whim and not offer severance or anything.

I would much rather get a risky tech job in the US than in my current country (UK) where we get paid half or even less than half..

Btw its not just the money either, imagine the kind of companies/opportunities that can survive such extreme collectivism and think about what becomes of the culture/practices/mannerisms in such an environment.

One thing I always wondered about less developed parts of the world like Asia and the middle east is how did they devolve so much? South America and Africa makes sense, those regions didn't develop complex advanced civilisations but India did, China did, Middle east did.. and they did it thousands of years ago then just devolved to pitiful lows. Now it makes sense..

Europe and her children deserves everything that coming to them. The arrogance of these people to think they can play god with humanity and be arbiter of who deserves what..

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by irjustin »

Possibly stupid question - why are so many companies laying off?

According to Wallstreet, the majority of the recession scare isn't a scare. Inflation, while not fully at target, is getting better. Unemployment is at an all time low.

So many companies are laying off like it's the worst times ahead. Obviously layoffs aren't taken lightly so there must be some internal signals that really push them to take these measures.

It just seems like Feds+WallStreet vs companies actions are at odds with each other?

Re: Cloudflare lays off new hires

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Post by system2 »

How many were laid off? I can't find an article online about the layoffs. Do we only have her word or something I missed? Cloudflare stock doesn't show any movement. Usually, I see a big dip when something like this happens.

I saw the video posted here and all I see is an intern getting fired. Is it something unusual? I know companies with less than 50 employees hiring and firing a bunch of people every month. For Cloudflare to fire 2 new employees, is it too much?

The video from the other reply: https://twitter.com/BowTiedPassport/status/17451497589921956...

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