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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by tempestn » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:14 AM UTC

abid786 wrote: post #37

Metricon wrote: post #34

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Currently, if you disable chat history, you'll see this message: Chat History is off for this browser. When history is turned off, new chats on this browser won't appear in your history on any of your devices, be used to train our models, or stored for longer than 30 days. This setting does not sync across browsers or devices.

It's absolutely insane to trust that they won't do this.

No it's not. If they explicitly say they won't train on your data and then they do, it's going to come out in discovery of one of the lawsuits they're fighting, and the consequences would be significant. Plus there's little incentive for them to lie about it, given most people leave history on.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by projectileboy » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:17 AM UTC

engineer_22 wrote: post #48

martinky24 wrote: post #21

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It’s pretty obvious that once they realized how much money was on the table, the “non-profit” aspirations and goals went out the window. The Altman saga from a few months ago painted this clearly.

How much money is on the table?

GDP bigger than that of the web.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by alwa » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:20 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #12

A notable feature here is "no training on your business data or conversations" which really shouldn't have to be a feature. (requests using the ChatGPT API already aren't trained upon)

Similarly you can opt your individual account out on the ChatGPT side. [0] Although by default they do seem to use both vanilla and Plus conversations for training.

[0] https://privacy.openai.com/policies

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by TotoHorner » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:21 AM UTC

hereme888 wrote: post #6

100 messages / 3 hrs, with a 32k context window. That's really cost effective and efficient for my use case! Does anyone know if this applies to voice conversations? This is me while I'm driving: upload big PDF -> talk to GPT: "Ok, read to me the study/book/article word for word." Good job OpenAI.

> 100 messages / 3 hrs

Sorry where do you see that? I only see "higher usage limits"?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by alwa » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:22 AM UTC

sjwhevvvvvsj wrote: post #43

ashu1461 wrote: post #39

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Yes but even in ChatGPT the training is not done ?

Be default they train on user data and cripple the product in various ways if you opt out.

For some time I thought the primary way to opt out was to disable chat history. That made it impossible to use custom instructions. But I later found the account-level opt-out request, which, assuming they respect the weakly-worded “ask us not to train on your data” language, preserves the product’s full set of features:

https://privacy.openai.com/policies

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:22 AM UTC

laborcontract wrote: post #16

At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here. They're starting to expand their business in a way that geometrically grows the size of the team, overlapping products that microsoft is offering, making the whole non-profit/capped-profit thing a head scratcher. I guess you can argue this is just a marginal add-on to their existing ChatGPT product but I can imagine seeing them go full Salesforce/Oracle/en…

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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by drdaeman » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:25 AM UTC

ChatGTP wrote: post #50

wilg wrote: post #36

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> At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here Sell AI products to fund making AI

At some point I think there is a conflict though, the more powerful the AI models, the more risk there is to their own business.

Not if they move fast and build that moat to maintain their castle as the only provider of highest-quality models' services.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by coconut08 » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:35 AM UTC

tempestn wrote: post #51

abid786 wrote: post #37

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It's absolutely insane to trust that they won't do this.

No it's not. If they explicitly say they won't train on your data and then they do, it's going to come out in discovery of one of the lawsuits they're fighting, and the consequences would be significant. Plus there's little incentive for them to lie about it, given most people leave history on.

yeah because no large tech company has ever lied to their customers about how their data is being handled. oh wait there are lawsuits surrounding this sort of thing all the time.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by jarcoal » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:36 AM UTC

hereme888 wrote: post #6

100 messages / 3 hrs, with a 32k context window. That's really cost effective and efficient for my use case! Does anyone know if this applies to voice conversations? This is me while I'm driving: upload big PDF -> talk to GPT: "Ok, read to me the study/book/article word for word." Good job OpenAI.

I'm confused -- wasn't ChatGPT upgraded to 128k tokens at their last release? Or was that just the API?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by ec109685 » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:42 AM UTC

ta988 wrote: post #42

A major change is that you cannot opt out from having your conversations used for training unless you are usig a team account which is pretty costly for a single person.

This link lets individuals opt out: https://privacy.openai.com/policies