> But here’s the thing: we need more tools for it. We need simpler tools for it.
LOL ... vi still works for me or nano if I'm feeling lazy.
Let's make the indie web easier
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Re: Let's make the indie web easier
#52> But here’s the thing: we need more tools for it. We need simpler tools for it. LOL ... vi still works for me or nano if I'm feeling lazy.
You completely missed the point. How is vi easy?
Re: Let's make the indie web easier
#53It’s incredibly easy now to have a “website” for a vast number of different purposes, via Facebook, Twitter, Etsy, Patreon, etc., all of which come with the added value of discoverability. And as always, the cost of ease is control. There’s value in control, but it will always be a trade off. So arguing for making independent websites easier is really arguing for another level of granularity in the tradeoffs between…
Facebook, Twitter, and Patreon are, however, walled gardens.
It's actually intensely frustrating how many small businesses (restaurants, bars, etc) have a website that's abandoned at best, and post all their updates on Instagram, almost as frustrating as when public agencies update on Twitter but not on their website. This is a clear downgrade for the public.
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#54I just want the I Mac that Jeff Goodblum promised me. Being able to host a website just by putting files in a certain folder already present with a special icon was a magical feature for my then girlfriend.
Did she break up with you when Apple removed the http server in MacOS?
Re: Let's make the indie web easier
#55It’s incredibly easy now to have a “website” for a vast number of different purposes, via Facebook, Twitter, Etsy, Patreon, etc., all of which come with the added value of discoverability. And as always, the cost of ease is control. There’s value in control, but it will always be a trade off. So arguing for making independent websites easier is really arguing for another level of granularity in the tradeoffs between…
Facebook, Twitter, and Patreon are, however, walled gardens. It's actually intensely frustrating how many small businesses (restaurants, bars, etc) have a website that's abandoned at best, and post all their updates on Instagram, almost as frustrating as when public agencies update on Twitter but not on their website. This is a clear downgrade for the public.
Yeah, I think that the motivation behind the article is “it would be a social good for there to be more independent websites”, and that’s probably true, but it’s academic.
If you tell someone they should run their own website, their response is generally not going to be, as the post suggests, “how?” It’s going to be “why?”, and if your best answer is “because it’s better for society”, good luck convincing them.
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#56I write web server creation tools, so I'm somewhat familiar with this space. I'm not sure I'd recommend shared hosting setups. If you're going that route then you might as well host on WordPress.com or squarespace or whatever. The logical place to serve is of course from your home machine. These days there are lots of users with good access, good enough to serve. Assuming you don't have a crappy ISP that blocks incom…
CG NATs say hi!
My isp has a nat even on ipv6!
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#57Honestly.. I'm a rails and elixir dev with 10+ years building web apps (back end mostly). It's not about the tech. Just getting a self hosted "hello world" static html file on the internet is near impossible, because ISP's make it so.
I could spin up a docker and nginx, set up my router to allow port forwarding, but the ISP will stand in my way. Port 80 or port (8)433 won't come through.
No amount of tech on my raspberry-pie will let me self host.