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Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Read: "Bill & Dave" by Michael Malone. Agilent took the heart & soul of HP. Then it split further (Keysight et al) HP took the printers, which at least used to be a good business. HPE is the wretched refuse that's left.

HPE took the PC server business. I'd hardly call that "wretched"?

I mean, they still offer financing on Itanium CPUs https://buy.hpe.com/us/en/options/processors/intel-itanium-p...

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We don't have a free market economy, we have bought and paid for regulatory pressure and we call it 'free', while the reality is, it's the worst of both free market and planned economics.

Those very market giants have people repeating that it's the regulators, which are their bane, rather than the Republican Party, which do everything to undermine not only all regulation (you can see how people blaming the regulators would serve the Republicans), but every other aspect of government - even tax collection - that would stand in the way of the power of market oligarchs.

The party doesn't matter, government regulation is mostly allowed to exist at the behest of defacto monopolies. It sure as hell isn't the common man making these things happen, nor is it people who represent us in a meaningful way.

It does play into their hands perfectly to blame 'the Republicans' or 'the Democrats', and it does indeed make the problem seem more solvable, easy solution right? Vote out the other guy, problem solved, except when we do that, problem not solved, it just changes the guy who's cashing the checks because the problem is much, much bigger than that (and those that cause the problem are much smarter than that).

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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It's sad, HPE will suck out all the life-force of Juniper; I have had other HP-acquired products and they never got better in subsequent offerings, only worse.

We have been testing equipment from other vendors, so that we could replace Juniper in the future, it needed. Those plans just became much more relevant, unless the plan is that Juniper takes the lead on HPE networking.

HPE would have been purchased by Micro Focus is it wasn't a hardware company. It's really sad to see the decline, HP actually made some nice stuff, 15 - 20 years ago.

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Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?

Not sure exactly where the line lies between "consumer" and "enterprise". But, anecdotally, my employer (which is a pretty big enterprise) has small HP laser printers which cost a few hundred dollars (They've always worked perfectly on both Linux and Windows and need no maintenance, just remember to turn them on. Most of them are still on their original toner (we don't print that much).

Newer models seem to come with wifi, but I have no idea how well that works.

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> Accelerating AI-Native Networking Leadership I think I just threw up in my mouth.

I would very much like someone in charge at either HPE or Juniper to explain to me in plain English what that means exactly, in practical terms. I doubt it means anything.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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I remember working with Juniper equipment a decade ago (I didn't like it because I've traditionally worked exclusively with Cisco equipment), but I haven't heard anyone in my circles mention Juniper since. Are they considered a niche vendor today (similar to Novell in the 2000s)?

Juniper is pretty big, and probably the company most of the Cisco users are turning to, in my experience. Cisco has stagnated for so long and continue their attempt to push over prices solutions that simply isn't as good or modern as those of their competitors.

We continued to buy Cisco for longer than we should have, because "New stuff is surely around the corner", but it's not. Cisco still makes enterprise equipment that can't do IPv6. So we switched to Juniper three or four years ago, and may of our customers are doing or considering the same.

Cisco isn't the dominate play it used to be and is almost never the first choice for new projects anymore.

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> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

HP has two tiers of consumer print devices. Bottom of the barrel & "Home, Home Office and SoHo". Second category is good. First one wears down fast.

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Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?

At a 100 pages per year, your cheapest option is probably a bus ticket to a Kinkos.
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