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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Just wait, humidity and condensation will cause a spat of "water detected, fail warranty" issues. And now, jailbreaking will mean being able to reset tattletaled.

> And now, jailbreaking will mean being able to reset tattletaled.

Jailbreaking will be able to stop future reports, but it can't take back the reports that it already uploaded to the Apple mothership.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Of course they can…? It’s just a term of the warranty policy. Very bizarre regarding your iPod! What is your working theory for that ?

That would greatly depend upon the country. Many countries (sans USA probably) have rights of warranty for consumers, that companies policies cannot override.

Water damage is one of the cases I've seen companies abuse to get out of warranty in Europe. I don't know of a way to dispute it.

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This seems like fake outrage at a restriction that exists only in a hypothetical that nobody on earth would ever implement if for no other reason than the fact that it would be incredibly hard and complicated. If some future despot actually wanted to forbid dirty power wouldn't they just do that instead of making your phone not charge?

A lot of people said the same things about DRM and many other predictions that turned out to be true.

And how many predictions turned out to be false?

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Of course they can…? It’s just a term of the warranty policy. Very bizarre regarding your iPod! What is your working theory for that ?

That would greatly depend upon the country. Many countries (sans USA probably) have rights of warranty for consumers, that companies policies cannot override.

"rights of warranty" can't be unconditional. If I drop my phone and it breaks or drop laptop in pool, that wouldn't be on the company?

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My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk. All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly. I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass. Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!

I’ve been snorkeling and swimming with my 14 Pro Max a couple dozen times, taking videos and photos, and never had an issue. I also wash my phone under the tap regularly (weekly or more) because I spend lots of time in a grimy workshop for hobbies. Only one data point but the waterproof aspect of modern phones is one of my absolute favorite developments.

That’s honestly kind of crazy. It’s only an IP68 rating. It’s meant for prevention of damage during quick submersion accidents, not snorkeling.

>the waterproof aspect of modern phones is one of my absolute favorite developments.

IP68 is water resistant, not waterproof.

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What I mean by that is do people make quality waterproof cases for macs? I wonder why Apple has never considered making a toughbook type machine for real field work.

Volume, I’m sure. They sell a large volume of a small number of SKUs so go for the minimum feature set that can get them out a couple of sigmas of the target market. Anything else is aftermarket (special case) or just “buy something else”. There are a few exceptions. I wonder how many Mac pros they really sell. I assume it’s really a “halo” product that sells more Mac studios and MacBook pros. Also the Mac in general…

Half of developers in North America, and especially those at top tier companies, use Macs. You can't buy that kind of top tech mindshare with marketing. Also now with the M-series CPUs, Macbooks aren't PC Clones anymore, they're back in the game of being an exclusive platform, which will get even more exclusive as they add other specialized chips. Their sales share of the market and as you mention, their profit share of the market keeps increasing, so even on that alone, why would a bean counter decide to drop them?

Don't forget Apple's size... the AirPod business, stood alone, would be a Fortune 500 company. Even if an Apple business is a bit small compared to the iPhone, it's still a humongous business by any other comparator.

I'm not an Apple fanboy (e.g. I use an old Chinese Android phone) but I'm still awed by their business.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

Making the ports waterproof would be pretty easy, since they can do that on iPhones. But what about the ventilation areas? That's much trickier, I'd think. Making a waterproof iPad should be trivial since it has the same ports as an iPhone.

MacBook Airs no longer have ventilation

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It doesn't even have to be waterproof to prevent 99% water damage cases. It just needs to be water resistant against liquid pours from the top, like how a car can withstand rain.

Most of the liquid spills I see are from people carrying water bottles in their bags with the laptop.

Yup, just happened to me yesterday. I was in a hurry and didn’t screw lid of a coffee thermos correctly. Luckily the mac seems to have survived.
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