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Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by kansi »

kla-s wrote: post #10

Same machine here as well, running the latest Ubuntu (23.10) power profiles do work but auto-cpufreq is way more effective in increasing battery runtime for me. I can get ~6h of runtime (~10W draw) if i mostly just code in VSCode + some browsing, with display at 1/3 brightness and the code being executed remote. Went with the OLED panel, so that definitively doesn't help battery runtime, but damn those colors are nic…

> but damn those colors are nice :)

This! One day laptop manufactures (excluding Apple) will understand that a vibrant colorful display is much desired by customers than a 1080p matt finish display.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by kuschku »

ggreer wrote: post #9

I'm guessing the author's website is misconfigured. Every path except the root returns an HTTP 404, but the 404 page loads some JavaScript that fetches assets based on the URL. For example, the ThinkPad blog post loads https://utkarshsingh.xyz/assets/thinkpad-p14s/thinkpad-p14s.... This mostly works, but some browsers will display a warning or their own 404 page. Also it means his site won't be indexed in search engi…

And this "solution" doesn't work without JS at all...

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by d3w4s9 »

k8svet wrote: post #34

> but I still have doubts about the stability of Linux in ARM desktop space. smh, I don't get it. Maybe just bad distros. Linux ARM on desktop is absolutely, 100% perfectly fine. Hell, outside of 3-6 random utilities, Linux RISCV on desktop is similarly usable (probably less if GHC started publishing riscv bootstraps). The only issue is if I need x86_64 emulation, but it's not like I'm hurting for access to an x86_64…

There are many applications that don't yet provide prebuilt packages for linux on ARM. I guess it's not a problem for open source applications (since you can always build from source yourself) but doesn't work for proprietary applications and wouldn't work for everyone. "100% fine" only applies to some people, and I definitely wouldn't recommend everyone to take the leap and then find that something they need isn't available.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by rjh29 »

charles_f wrote: post #29

I had one of these (albeit with a much lesser config) and what made me not like it was the screen. It felt ancient somehow. Might have been my employer cheaping out though. There was also something weird with the fn and alt or ctrl keys being switched, but from what I gather that's Lenovo's little kink

The cheapest panel option is absolutely horrible, but the others are pretty decent. Might be that.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by neilv »

delijati wrote: post #32
jasoneckert wrote: post #24

This P14s is very nicely spec'd with its Ryzen and 32GB of RAM. Beyond their durability, stellar keyboard (with TrackPoint), OS compatibility, and overall value, ThinkPads have a certain additional charm I've never been able to explain.

I fell for the TrackPoint. I really miss the X200 that had no Touchpad.

Used X200 units are still available. Put 8 GB RAM and an SSD in them, and they're good for most Linux purposes.

And the X200 is relatively easy to put Coreboot/Libreboot on (as in-circuit SPI flashing headache goes, compared to those models that require extensive teardown), and the Intel ME code can be removed rather than merely disabled.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by binkHN »

kansi wrote: post #51
kla-s wrote: post #10

Same machine here as well, running the latest Ubuntu (23.10) power profiles do work but auto-cpufreq is way more effective in increasing battery runtime for me. I can get ~6h of runtime (~10W draw) if i mostly just code in VSCode + some browsing, with display at 1/3 brightness and the code being executed remote. Went with the OLED panel, so that definitively doesn't help battery runtime, but damn those colors are nic…

> but damn those colors are nice :) This! One day laptop manufactures (excluding Apple) will understand that a vibrant colorful display is much desired by customers than a 1080p matt finish display.

> 1080p matt finish display

The OLED that Lenovo is currently shipping for this and related hardware is not matte, but it's close. It's anti-glare, so it doesn't have the mirror finish of Apple panels.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by Baeocystin »

delijati wrote: post #28
Baeocystin wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time a potential eGPU build has come up for me (~half a dozen times over the past few years) it's always made more sense in the end to simply build a generic ATX box, stuff the GPU in there, and just remote in. FWIW. The two times I tried anyway, because hey, fun new challenge, the primary lesson learned was that it was not worth it, most recently being ~6 months ago.

Currently i do exactly that. I have a ATX box (AMD 2700x + Nvidia 3090) and access it remote, but i hate that it is idle most of the day and to transfer the data that i'm working on to it. (My notebook is my daily driver with company access) I just bought a eGPU case and will give it a shot, will report back :)

Please do! I'm looking forward to hearing how it works out.

Re: The ThinkPad P14s

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Baeocystin wrote: post #18
delijati wrote: post #14

I'm also considering that P14s AMD Gen4. But to do some ML stuff i need the damn Nvidia cuda cores :/ It has a USB4 port and could in theory run a eGPU but i can't find any infos if it would work. Also it seams that the [1] intel 1360p is a bit faster? and i'm on the safer side because of real thunderbold support. [1] https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-1360p-vs...

Every time a potential eGPU build has come up for me (~half a dozen times over the past few years) it's always made more sense in the end to simply build a generic ATX box, stuff the GPU in there, and just remote in. FWIW. The two times I tried anyway, because hey, fun new challenge, the primary lesson learned was that it was not worth it, most recently being ~6 months ago.

> The two times I tried anyway, because hey, fun new challenge, the primary lesson learned was that it was not worth it,

Not cost effective or too buggy?

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