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Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by Yusefmosiah »

yosito wrote: post #37

It will be interesting to see if anyone has made any worthwhile custom GPTs. I've tried making custom GPTs and, to be frank, I found the functionality extremely basic and barely more effective than just copy/pasting a custom prompt.

I'm building Choir. Choir humanizes ChatGPT, augmenting the AI response with messages from humans that are relevant to your prompt. Each prompt you write into Choir gets saved to our database, so the more usage Choir gets, the smarter the Choir collective intelligence becomes.

Check it out at https://choir.chat — it redirects directly to the Choir custom GPT.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by mmaunder »

Yusefmosiah wrote: post #50
mmaunder wrote: post #34

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A platform play like this assumes a captive market that is using the platform and who faces significant pain to leave. iPhone, Android and Windows had this. OpenAI does not because other APIs and open source models are hot on their heels. For many dev needs, an open source model can be used far cheaper, without vendor lockin, with more flexibility, free of censorship, and with lower latency. To make this play and sus…

I'm rooting for open source models too. But I'm also a dev working to use AI models for consumer apps. And currently, open source is quite a ways behind. Consider some points: 1. GPT-4 was trained in Summer 2022. OpenAI already has better models. 2. It's not just the model, but the infra around it: ChatGPT has tool use — image generation, web search, and API calls through "actions" — built in. 3. More infra: ChatGPT…

Thanks for your insight.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by kdtsh »

yosito wrote: post #37

It will be interesting to see if anyone has made any worthwhile custom GPTs. I've tried making custom GPTs and, to be frank, I found the functionality extremely basic and barely more effective than just copy/pasting a custom prompt.

AutoExpert[1] is indispensable to my use of ChatGPT now, and I’ve found that the GPT release is ‘better’ now than the custom instructions based release. If you haven’t used it I highly recommend it.

[1] https://github.com/spdustin/ChatGPT-AutoExpert

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by mattbrewsbytes »

ceejayoz wrote: post #42
mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #38

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> you’ll also be able to earn money based on how many people are using your GPT So how does that work? Are they showing ads? (Narrator: its always ads) Is this the new ad-sense and search engine replacement? Its not SEO anymore, its custom GPTs.

It's probably a revenue share of the API usage fees that result from usage of the custom model.

That doesn’t track. I develop a custom model by paying them $x/month and they give me a discount based on usage? If somehow my new custom gpt goes viral and gets lots of usage I don’t see how that is connected with more money, if that is their intent. Its not really clear how this is a store or how money is changing hands here.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by ceejayoz »

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #54
ceejayoz wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably a revenue share of the API usage fees that result from usage of the custom model.

That doesn’t track. I develop a custom model by paying them $x/month and they give me a discount based on usage? If somehow my new custom gpt goes viral and gets lots of usage I don’t see how that is connected with more money, if that is their intent. Its not really clear how this is a store or how money is changing hands here.

> If somehow my new custom gpt goes viral and gets lots of usage I don’t see how that is connected with more money, if that is their intent.

They're charging everyone using your model, per API call made.

They write you a check for X% of that resulting revenue.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by CharlesW »

H8crilA wrote: post #35
CharlesW wrote: post #23

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This should answer your question: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-gpts We’re rolling out custom versions of ChatGPT that you can create for a specific purpose—called GPTs. GPTs are a new way for anyone to create a tailored version of ChatGPT to be more helpful in their daily life, at specific tasks, at work, or at home—and then share that creation with others. Starting today, you can create GPTs and share them pu…

What's a version of a ChatGPT? A custom model? With custom pretraining, or just custom fine-tuning? Or just a custom prompt, lol.

As TFA I linked to notes, "You can now create custom versions of ChatGPT that combine (1) instructions, (2) extra knowledge, and (3) any combination of skills" [numbers and italics added].

Regarding skills, "In addition to using our built-in capabilities, you can also define custom actions by making one or more APIs available to the GPT. Like plugins, actions allow GPTs to integrate external data or interact with the real-world. Connect GPTs to databases, plug them into emails, or make them your shopping assistant. For example, you could integrate a travel listings database, connect a user’s email inbox, or facilitate e-commerce orders."

For more on custom actions: https://platform.openai.com/docs/actions

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by pona-a »

ianbicking wrote: post #43

I'm sure there will be improvements, but making a custom GPT a few weeks ago I was very unimpressed: 1. The GPT builder itself didn't feel like it was a well-tuned prompt (i.e., the prompt they use to guide prompt creation). It created long-winded prompts that left out information and didn't pay attention to what I said. Anything I enter into the GPT builder interface is probably very important! 2. The quotas are fai…

Maybe you can hack some context management and hidden state with custom functions? The scratch buffer can literally be an endpoint that returns OK and has a field like "plain: list[str]", assuming it keeps function call data in memory. Better context memory can be done perhaps by reminding in the system prompt to always call getPinned() each 5 messages, perhaps...

But yes, the whole thing does seem bound to regress to low-quality "I'll enter 1/5th of your request in for you". You can probably even make a script that uses GPT-3.5 to generate these "GPTs".

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by NoZebra120vClip »

mkl wrote: post #10
stainablesteel wrote: post #9

chatgpt is too lame for this to work you can't even ask it to spell words incorrectly if you ask gpt4 to spell words incorrectly, it fusses about it. i'm commenting on the fact that the company is too stuck on appearances

Why does a store need apps with incorrect spelling?

The more colloquial, sloppy, and nonstandard the language, the less likely a student's cheating will be flagged as plagiarism. There are many, many dishonest uses for LLMs; students around the globe are leveraging their ability to furnish essay answers and entire reports with expert-level domain knowledge.

If a student doesn't engineer the prompt properly and the LLM uses its "native" voice, this can be easily detected by instructors, so it's very important for cheaters to disguise their cheating and hew closely to an inexperienced writer, even a foreign-language speaker, in order to pass muster.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by callalex »

drakonka wrote: post #49
_boffin_ wrote: post #48

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They're able to utilize APIs

Would you mind pointing me to some info on this? I actually tried to invoke my custom GPT through the OpenAI API and found no way to do it. The closest option at the time was creating an Assistant, which is a whole separate construct. If there's a way to do it now I'd love to play around with it.

They’re talking about the other direction. The bot can make web requests, which means it can export data.

Re: GPT Store Launch

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Post by callalex »

Yusefmosiah wrote: post #51
yosito wrote: post #37

It will be interesting to see if anyone has made any worthwhile custom GPTs. I've tried making custom GPTs and, to be frank, I found the functionality extremely basic and barely more effective than just copy/pasting a custom prompt.

I'm building Choir. Choir humanizes ChatGPT, augmenting the AI response with messages from humans that are relevant to your prompt. Each prompt you write into Choir gets saved to our database, so the more usage Choir gets, the smarter the Choir collective intelligence becomes. Check it out at https://choir.chat — it redirects directly to the Choir custom GPT.

What is that useful for?
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