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An interesting fact: this research was paid for by crowd funding because the Ministry of Health refused to fund it. The Netherlands is also unique in Europe as the only country which does not even try to treat this condition. If you get ME/CFS you are, quite literally, left to die here. Unless someone in your network looks after you.
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One mechanism is physiological stress when people believe they’ve been cursed: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447278/
You keep bringing that up, but Long Covid is exceptionally well documented at this point. We can't pretend it's entirely in peoples heads like you seem to be doing.
> we saw that the mitochondria of the muscle, also known as the energy factories of the cell *Ahem*, powerhouse of the cell Jokes aside, this is a terrifying stat: "Although the majority of people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus recover within weeks...around one in eight will get long-COVID. Symptoms in patients with long-COVID...include severe cognitive problems (brain fog), fatigue, exercise intolerance, autonom…
There is nothing to be “terrified” about. You are conflating different types of “long covid”. Some covid infections, just like the cold or the flu, cause symptoms longer than the 5-7 days, maybe for 2-3 weeks. That’s long covid. Also remember that long covid symptoms include symptoms like depression and it ends up not being very rigorously defined. Then there is the version that creates long term chronic fatigue symp…
Cool. I wonder if they’ll ever discover the reason behind the loss of smell. I lost mine completely for about a year, and I still can’t smell most things. Luckily one of the smells I got back was shit, I say lucky because it’s handy when you have diaper wearing children. In general what I’ve gotten back has been “nasty” smells, I can also smell things like vomit or rotten food. But “good” smells are still completely…
Have you tried smell training (basically you sniff 3-4 different types of essential oils daily). My girlfriend lost her smell due to covid for a year or so, and got it back about a month after starting smell training
I've never heard of such a thing but if so I'm glad there's something to at least try.
I don't personally know anyone who still hasn't regained their sense of smell, but for some it was a year or more before it returned fully.
I do know 2 people with 'long covid' who are just super low energy (not a severe case).
Im just excited it's all being looked into now as opposed to being blown off or labeled misinformation.
[1] https://www.uab.edu/reporter/patient-care/advances/item/1000...
> we saw that the mitochondria of the muscle, also known as the energy factories of the cell *Ahem*, powerhouse of the cell Jokes aside, this is a terrifying stat: "Although the majority of people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus recover within weeks...around one in eight will get long-COVID. Symptoms in patients with long-COVID...include severe cognitive problems (brain fog), fatigue, exercise intolerance, autonom…
There is nothing to be “terrified” about. You are conflating different types of “long covid”. Some covid infections, just like the cold or the flu, cause symptoms longer than the 5-7 days, maybe for 2-3 weeks. That’s long covid. Also remember that long covid symptoms include symptoms like depression and it ends up not being very rigorously defined. Then there is the version that creates long term chronic fatigue symp…
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You're right, and I wish we had terms to differentiate them. It's ridiculous that "chronic fatigue and brain fog for the rest of your life" and "flu-like symptoms for 3 weeks and then back to normal" are both discussed under the term "long covid".
We could use C data types as inspiration: long covid, and longlong covid.
Are we still trying to find some direct physical correlation betwee the symptoms of "long covid" and the virus infection itself? Such symptoms occuring are unsurprising given the psychological effect of the pandemic at its height, its societal and economical effects. Adding to this getting infected and all the fanfare, along with fear mongering we've been subject to via the media and mandates, long covid could alone…
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If it's psychosomatic then why does it only happen with this specific virus and not, say, with chronic illnesses?
Maybe because covid 19 has been accompanied with an avalanche of commenting along with draconian measures that we haven't seen for at least an entire generation.
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There is nothing to be “terrified” about. You are conflating different types of “long covid”. Some covid infections, just like the cold or the flu, cause symptoms longer than the 5-7 days, maybe for 2-3 weeks. That’s long covid. Also remember that long covid symptoms include symptoms like depression and it ends up not being very rigorously defined. Then there is the version that creates long term chronic fatigue symp…
What is the fitness level of people suffering from the more extreme cases of "long covid"? As in, are they overweight and unhealthy in other ways? Because if that is the case the issue isn't the virus, it's the general health of that population in the first place. That's my gripe about this discussion, because I can never tell, since all I get is anecdotes, if this is a result that's agnostic to body type/fitness. Do…