I plan to use it just as much as my Bixby button on my Galaxy phone (not at all)
A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
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Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#52MS has previously been experimenting with replacing Right Windows and Context keys (with Office and Emoji keys): https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/11/20909475/microsoft-offic... Copilot key doesn't sound all that useful, but still will be much better than Office key
The Office key is apparently just CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + WIN, as Office Key + W is advertised to open Word and Office Key + L is advertised to open LinkedIn, but you can perform both of those actions in plain Windows by just using CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + WIN + W and CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + WIN + L respectively.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/15/23874798/microsoft-window...
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#53You can imagine how this came about. Nadella issued a decree that every division has to come up with an idea of how to integrate AI into their product. The keyboard people thought they would add another key. I dread to think what the mouse designers are planning.
>what the mouse designers are planning
I predict the trailing mouse effect will stop following the cursor and go on its own adventures with occasional cursor privileges, that's when amazon will invent Just-Hover purchasing and your AI mouse gf will spend all your cash.
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> with very good intentions. As if.
> As if. You may find it difficult to believe, but the people who work at Microsoft are people just like you. They have goals and get caught up in the whims of management, who are also people who get caught up in the whims of various things at various times.
I’m sure the engineers are nice people. But it would suck to have to compromise design to make the crappy stuff that just randomly eats processors.
This would make me sad and fortunately, I think engineers have a lot of choice over where they work. So if people are consciously building this stuff then I think it’s more likely that they drank the koolaid and agree than they are forced against their will to be crappy.
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
that sucks. right-win + L quickly locks the computer. going to have to figure out an autohotkey solution for this.
Doesn't do the exact same thing as left-win + L?
Depending on the size of the keyboard and on the size of your hands, using the left modifier for that shortcut might need two hands instead of just one; it's very convenient to be able to quickly lock the desktop with only one hand.
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#56Unless it can be used as a more or less generic modifier key, I don't really see the point of a key dedicated to this one function. The placement on the keyboard in the photo would suggest that either the space bar is shrunk down or one of the keys to its right is removed to accommodate the new key. That doesn't seem optimal to me. Maybe the dedicated context menu key can be removed, which is equally useless as it re…
> I can't for the life of me think of a reason I'd need an AI to do any of the stuff I use my desktop OS for. If the key can flexibly consume whatever content is in the current context -- images, audio, text, selectable files -- and potentially have access to RAG, it seems to me that the number of potential use cases is very high. Of course, everything hinges on "flexible" -- if it's mono-modal and doesn't access con…
My question wasn't about the key per se (which is just a trigger for Copilot, it seems), but about what Copilot itself brings. Can it do any of the stuff you describe?
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#57Neat! Hopefully this means we get an extra remappable key on Linux!
I’m cynical: my guess is it’ll just emit Super+C. My laptop has its row of function keys and their alternative functions are mostly separate keys for controlling the device, but three feel more application-level: ASUS’s “Aura” button is XF86Launch3 (yay!), but the screenshot and presentation mode changing ones are just Super+Shift+S and Super+P, so you can’t do anything novel with them. I’m guessing Copilot will use…
> but the screenshot and presentation mode changing ones are just Super+Shift+S and Super+P
For the presentation mode key, it used to be its own independent key, but Microsoft changed its mind and told manufacturers to make it send Win+P instead. Some laptop manufacturers made it depend on the Windows version (through the ACPI _OSI method), so if you pretend to be an older Windows version, it'll have the former behavior instead of Win+P (though doing so could have other negative consequences, see https://mjg59.livejournal.com/85923.html).
Unfortunately, this was long ago enough (or the search engines got bad enough at searching old stuff) that I'm not finding the place where I originally read about that; the most I could find was a StackOverflow answer (https://askubuntu.com/questions/62319/is-there-an-equivalent...).
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can't for the life of me think of a reason I'd need an AI to do any of the stuff I use my desktop OS for. If the key can flexibly consume whatever content is in the current context -- images, audio, text, selectable files -- and potentially have access to RAG, it seems to me that the number of potential use cases is very high. Of course, everything hinges on "flexible" -- if it's mono-modal and doesn't access con…
My question wasn't about the key per se (which is just a trigger for Copilot, it seems), but about what Copilot itself brings. Can it do any of the stuff you describe?
I'm addressing your particular point about not seeing any use for this in the OS. I disagree. If there is a flexible layer that can consume and correlate context, there are tons of use cases
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#59Microsoft is just aiming to revive their monopoly but this time through AI. Beware. You think Google is bad? It is. But wait until MS can get their hooks into you with AI products that know just about everything about you and that tattle your every action back to the MotherShip in order to make it that much more sticky.
How is microsoft worse then any other of the tech giants?
Re: A new Copilot key to kick off the year of AI-powered Windows PCs
#60I plan to use it just as much as my Bixby button on my Galaxy phone (not at all)
You can rebind it to the normal 'hold-to-shutdown' behavior.
Also you can assign custom action under quick double press.