Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir • Hacker News Board

Re: Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir

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Post by mwlp » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 3:27 AM UTC

jspash wrote: post #32

mwlp wrote: post #6

Nice! I also control my lights using Elixir and a Hue bridge (through Home Assistant). https://github.com/Manwholikespie/mojodojo

Interesting that you also used Elixir. It's also quite interesting contrasting your approach to OP's. Was there a specific reason that you chose Elixir?

Eh, Elixir has just become my go-to for personal projects. GenServers, pattern matching, releases, being able to pop a shell into my program, the beautiful colors of the IEx shell... I miss all these things when choosing other languages. I also planned on eventually integrating it with a chatbot of mine which is also written in Elixir.

Re: Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir

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Post by grepfru_it » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 3:54 AM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #49

grepfru_it wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has zero issues and so does MacOS yet there’s a market for both and lifelong users who switch from Win to Mac report a better experience. OpenHAB allows for way more customization and integration.

I don't understand your comment about Win/Mac, but I run HA as a VM, so the OS doesn't matter at all. The same is true with Docker containers. As for "way more" customization or integration, can you give an example or two? HA is scriptable.

OpenHAB comes in a container as well.

OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs. I know that is not a good example but it exemplifies the integration between different objects you may want to automate. This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on JavaScript. Then you can build many different uis. You can have the home assistant-esque UI or you can build your own ui complete with custom css and js to give a completely unique interface to your automation environment.

Also notifications aren’t locked behind a paywall with openHAB. OpenHAB cloud is free, or you can launch your own OpenHAB cloud container and self host notifications (assuming you get the relevant Apple/android api keys)

Re: Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir

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Post by smt88 » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 4:07 AM UTC

grepfru_it wrote: post #52

smt88 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand your comment about Win/Mac, but I run HA as a VM, so the OS doesn't matter at all. The same is true with Docker containers. As for "way more" customization or integration, can you give an example or two? HA is scriptable.

OpenHAB comes in a container as well. OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs. I know that is not a good example but it exemplifies the integration between different objects you may want to automate. This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on J…

> OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs.

Yes, this is exactly what HA does. I have devices of wildly different, closed-off brands working with each other.

> This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on JavaScript.

HA also has this.

> Also notifications aren’t locked behind a paywall with openHAB.

They're not in HA either.

> OpenHAB cloud is free

I would rather pay my home automation system to make sure they can survive and keep maintaining the software. I think I pay like $5/month. I was recently trying to figure out how to pay them more, honestly.

Re: Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir

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Post by grepfru_it » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 4:17 AM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #53

grepfru_it wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenHAB comes in a container as well. OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs. I know that is not a good example but it exemplifies the integration between different objects you may want to automate. This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on J…

> OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs. Yes, this is exactly what HA does. I have devices of wildly different, closed-off brands working with each other. > This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on JavaScript. HA also has this. > Also notif…

Then openHAB is not for you, cheers!

Re: Turtles, a Shelly/Zigbee home automation tool in Elixir

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Post by andruby » Mon, Jan 08, 2024, 8:26 PM UTC

grepfru_it wrote: post #54

smt88 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OpenHAB abstracts all of your devices. So your light switch can directly interact with Spotify , or your tv input can influence the color of your Philips hue bulbs. Yes, this is exactly what HA does. I have devices of wildly different, closed-off brands working with each other. > This is native, you can also do scripting to support custom actions as well, which is based on JavaScript. HA also has this. > Also notif…

Then openHAB is not for you, cheers!

I think the other commenter was hoping for some compelling reasons why you prefer OpenHAB over HA. On the surface both system seem very similar, I can't really figure out where they differ from looking at both homepages.