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Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by SethMurphy »

deafpolygon wrote: post #43
SethMurphy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This for one. This site is on the dopamine list. Phone is a metaphor. Choose your addictions wisely. Edit: removed unnecessary, kinda rude, wording.

What other sites are on the dopamine list?

It's a term I just coined and wasn't meant literally. I was referring to interactions that make you feel good and unintentionally become a habit. Myself, I come here to feel clever and learn by engaging in subject matter that interests me. I don't always hit the mark, but I try. I also realize others use social media such as Facebook for the same reason. In my younger days I may have done the same by conversing with strangers in coffee shops or bars.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by Levitz »

groestl wrote: post #14
Levitz wrote: post #12

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People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes. a bus wouldn't be literally filled with nothing but people reading magazines and books, nobody punished their children by taking their magazines away. We did have, say, "portable entertainment". music players were kinda similar to this too, but yeah there is a massive difference.

> a bus wouldn't be literally filled with nothing but people reading magazines and books https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditThroughHistory/comments/1rkhx...

I'm sorry but I don't care about some specific photo somewhere at some point. I don't even think this site leans young enough to ignore the fact that what is displayed on that photo was simply not the norm at all.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by Levitz »

ProxCoques wrote: post #40
Levitz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes. a bus wouldn't be literally filled with nothing but people reading magazines and books, nobody punished their children by taking their magazines away. We did have, say, "portable entertainment". music players were kinda similar to this too, but yeah there is a massive difference.

> People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes Are you being sarcastic? I'm 57 and I recall they absolutely DID do those things in the 70's and 80's. Trains and station platforms? Google some photos!

While in a group as in, meeting 5 friends and ignoring them to read stuff instead, not as in "somewhere with more people".

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by ProxCoques »

Levitz wrote: post #53
ProxCoques wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People didn't pull out a magazine while in a group and read an article for 5 minutes Are you being sarcastic? I'm 57 and I recall they absolutely DID do those things in the 70's and 80's. Trains and station platforms? Google some photos!

While in a group as in, meeting 5 friends and ignoring them to read stuff instead, not as in "somewhere with more people".

I recall it was perfectly common for a group of us to be sat around a table, or on a sofa or somewhere and somebody might drop out of the conversation and take out a magazine or a book, crossword or whatever (in fact Game&Watch and others were a thing back then too) while the rest of us chatted. They might say "I'm still listening", or one of us might bat it out of their hands or something too.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by nunez »

> Americans spend more than 4 hours a day on their phones, and more than half say they are addicted to their cell phone.

More like seven hours per day: https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/average-screen-time-on-iphon...

As long as phone screens continue to be perfect for handheld entertainment and phone apps continue to be designed for infinite thoughtless consumption, then the answer will remain "yes".

I 1000% blame social media companies for intentionally designing their apps and the content presented on them to drive engagement and taking advantage of psychology that makes people want to scroll while they are driving, for example.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by nunez »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #38

Luddites and neoludites and similar Amish type will expand their foothold into different cultures. I personally am going to be adjusting my usage as it is impacting my life and negative ways. I've already added timers and limits and will soon be going to grayscale only. What I do hope for which does not yet exist is the ability to use voice GPT at selective moments with a finger tap of an ear bud. I have noticed a gr…

The show UPLOAD does a fairly okay job demonstrating how this might work

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by nunez »

darklycan51 wrote: post #7

I don't really use my phone as a software developer, mostly because I have my pc with me all the time and pretty much all software is better on pc than on phones (thanks Apple/Google). I don't really know what people are doing to be addicted to their phones? maybe you're just addicted to social media? find other hobbies...

YouTube videos. Streaming. Scrolling Instagram/tiktok. Tons of messaging. Games. Reddit, to a lesser extent. Those are the usual suspects.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

tavavex wrote: post #49
pizzafeelsright wrote: post #38

Luddites and neoludites and similar Amish type will expand their foothold into different cultures. I personally am going to be adjusting my usage as it is impacting my life and negative ways. I've already added timers and limits and will soon be going to grayscale only. What I do hope for which does not yet exist is the ability to use voice GPT at selective moments with a finger tap of an ear bud. I have noticed a gr…

I'm curious - why would an earbud-activated LLM be preferable to just the normal interface with typing in the request? And why GPT specifically? I can see the point with technologies that integrate directly into the surrounding environment, like using Google Lens to look up information about a real object, or translate printed text, and so on. But the LLM will still be a text generator either way - is it just about b…

Generic term GPT for LLM I suppose.

As for the type of interface, having a screen requires eyeball attention that I rather have on the task at hand. This would remove the "device in hand" that a commpad/smartphone/tablet requires.

Me @ Kitchen: tap earbud & speak "read my favorite apple pie recipe list of ingredients" as I inventory the pantry.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #39
pizzafeelsright wrote: post #38

Luddites and neoludites and similar Amish type will expand their foothold into different cultures. I personally am going to be adjusting my usage as it is impacting my life and negative ways. I've already added timers and limits and will soon be going to grayscale only. What I do hope for which does not yet exist is the ability to use voice GPT at selective moments with a finger tap of an ear bud. I have noticed a gr…

Sounds like you may want https://hu.ma.ne/

Somewhat related but I consider it a poor design on many levels.

Re: Will we be addicted to our phones forever? An optimistic outlook

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Post by timbit42 »

TylerE wrote: post #5

Kind of funny how for decades people were wishing for some sort of Star Trek device that put the world's knowledge literally in your pocket. Now that we have it...

We're one step away from being constantly connected to the hive like the Borg.
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