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Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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attentive wrote: post #47
KyleGospo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only flatpaks here are ones installed by the user after setup, or ones installed by Fedora (Firefox for instance, you don't want your browser updating only when your OS does). Steam, gamescope, and nearly every other listed feature are native packages.

Brand new first boot Bazzite Gnome. That's 7Gb of flatpaks. $ flatpak list --columns=size,name | grep MB| grep -Po '\d+\.\d+'| paste -sd+ | bc 7025.2 $ flatpak list --columns=size,name | wc -l 54 $ df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 232G 15G 214G 7% /

The GNOME images have more Flatpaks preinstalled than the KDE Plasma images currently.

KDE image Flatpaks: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/system_files/d...

vs.

GNOME image Flatpaks: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/system_files/d...

If you're looking to save a few gigabytes, then I suggest using the KDE variants.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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KyleGospo wrote: post #12
evolve2k wrote: post #4

What’s the motivation for the creators of this? And who’s backing it? Doesn’t feel like a weekend hobby project but rather a strategic open source play of some sort. Maybe something Nvidia related?

Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of pocket. Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a year, and it just kept evolving and growi…

Hi, it's probably not your focus, but since you have Nvidia specific flavors, it would be great if browsers had hardware video decoding working. Either Firefox or chromium/brave. I did a fair bit of distrohopping and yet to find a distro doing that easily for nvidia native drivers.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by KyleGospo »

attentive wrote: post #52
KyleGospo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of pocket. Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a year, and it just kept evolving and growi…

Hi, it's probably not your focus, but since you have Nvidia specific flavors, it would be great if browsers had hardware video decoding working. Either Firefox or chromium/brave. I did a fair bit of distrohopping and yet to find a distro doing that easily for nvidia native drivers.

This should be working on AMD, Nvidia, and Intel. At most you may need to make minor configuration changes which we document in our wiki.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by attentive »

KyleGospo wrote: post #53
attentive wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, it's probably not your focus, but since you have Nvidia specific flavors, it would be great if browsers had hardware video decoding working. Either Firefox or chromium/brave. I did a fair bit of distrohopping and yet to find a distro doing that easily for nvidia native drivers.

This should be working on AMD, Nvidia, and Intel. At most you may need to make minor configuration changes which we document in our wiki.

That was my hope but it doesn't work on bazzite-gnome-nvidia. I believe I tried bazzite-nvidia as well but it's been a while. Mind pointing me to a relevant doc? - it's not googleable.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by jonny_eh »

nephyrin wrote: post #31
KyleGospo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a very select few games that require actual case folding and not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of literally only one.

SteamOS dev here - lack of case folding is one (but solvable, we supported development on native case folding for ext4), but general stability issues are the main concern. Our testing with btrfs has not been promising for deploying it in a zero-maintenance manner to many users and finnicky SD cards and have it Just Work, but we're keeping an eye on things and weighing where we could contribute.

Is there a way for adventurous users to opt into using BTRFS on SD cards?

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by Takennickname »

erulabs wrote: post #43

Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and powerful Linux systems, it’s only a software problem keeping people from using the internet as it was intended, equally publishers as they are consumers.

Never thought about it like that. Very possible.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Post by sirspacey »

erulabs wrote: post #43

Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and powerful Linux systems, it’s only a software problem keeping people from using the internet as it was intended, equally publishers as they are consumers.

The Roku of the internet, I love this idea so much.
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