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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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post #7

> Firefox is the only major browser not built by a company that makes money from advertising and/or selling your personal data This is true for Google, etc, but definitely not for Apple. Not saying Apple is perfect in every way, but they actually have a track record for privacy protection.

Brave runs on Chrome and has some of the highest privacy protections. I love Firefox, but just questioning if there aren’t good solutions available on Chrome. And while Apple may not have a business model as focused on selling data, they still have a growing ad business + weaker protections against fingerprinting and ad blocking

> weaker protections against fingerprinting and ad blocking

Citation?

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#54
post #31

I switched to Firefox earlier this year, having used Chrome since 2008/2009, previously having used Firefox. Mostly out of laziness. Can't believe how good Firefox is now, and how great it is on Android (addons, config). Being able to control anything on the browser is fantastic. Want to increase a certain UI elements font size just a tad? Sure! Want to tweak every aspect of the UI? sure! Want a myriad of config opti…

One UI feature that I love that Firefox lets you change is the scrollbars. I forget the precise settings, but I set them up so that they are always present and always big enough for me to see how far down a page I am (yes, like I'm using Windows 95!). That might only be something that matters to a few people, but the fact that it is customizable to that level is one of Firefox's greatest strengths.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#55
I've been a happy user of desktop and mobile Firefox for about ~3 years now. If you take the time to configure Firefox for Android to suit your needs and wants, it's a very formidable browser.

I did it for ideological reasons. I don't want Chromium strong-arming web standards (I really do hope it's not too late for that).

The only switch I've been unable to finish is the default search engine to something else. As much as Google's search results have become somewhat useless, sometimes DDG returns unrelated results. Bing as well. I've not yet tried Kagi.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#56
post #35

Firefox is the web browser equivalent a dying language. It will be a tragic loss for the culture of the web for Firefox to fade away. But, there are powerful macro forces pushing us to that outcome. "Switch, please," calls to action are a noble but insufficient countermeasure.

Is that a common belief on the Google Chrome team?

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#58
post #13

Just let it die. We need something new or at least a CEO with a vision that is not steered by the tides of LinkedIn hype

The thing is we can hardly have something new.

A new browser engine is an incredibly hard thing to program and historically they have always been financed by multi-millions (now billions) companies. Even Firefox via Google.

If you want another engine that is not WebKit or Gecko and you want it open source, you are asking for something that the free software community failed to deliver for the last 30 years and that is harder to deliver everyday.

If Firefox happens to die, we are basically stuck with a Webkit-only internet. We may have open source browsers but nobody is going to pay for the Gecko development (which is not just maintenance but keeping it up to date with the web specs) and nobody is going to pay for a new engine.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#59

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

The only site I've found behaves terribly in Firefox is LinkedIn. Weird pauses on page load that lock the whole browser (not just the tab) for like 5-10 seconds. No idea what they're doing to make this happen, but it's odd.

Which is, well, fine, because LinkedIn is mostly a dumpster anyways.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#60

I am not going back to Firefox anytime soon after they kicked out Brendan Eich for his personal views. Whether we agree or not with his personal views, open source should not be influenced by political agenda, neither by wokeness

Being publicly against same sex marriage is a business liability in San Francisco.

They have customers all over the world. It was a bad business decision, regardless of the local liability. They could have just swept it under the rug like they do at almost every other company.
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