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High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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It's probably a flipper zero. There is a Bluetooth iOS spamming script which can cause the devices to freeze or crash.

Link to the script? I have a F0 and would like to try it

https://github.com/Flipper-XFW/Xtreme-Firmware/blob/1a9c9cc3...

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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ha when i was in school we used 'punters' to kick people off AOL

At one point you could just send a ton of <<<<<<< which caused some internal parser to slow down horribly and eventually crash

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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ha when i was in school we used 'punters' to kick people off AOL

At one point you could just send a ton of <<<<<<< which caused some internal parser to slow down horribly and eventually crash

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds? I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them". When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses mor…

School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.

Speaking from experience, it is not.

My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day.

Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.

Speaking from experience, it is not. My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day. Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.

Sounds like your school sucked and a phone was the band-aid. I doubt you are alone in this kind of ‘education’ (using the word very lightly) induced misery, but escapism via device is not much good when the real problem is the systemic misuse of time and resources in our schools.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Oh no my phone turned off. Someone call the police.

Do this in the wrong school district and they'll put you in prison. Absolutely ridiculous.

Do this around people with type 1 diabetes, and there's a chance you're wiping out their glucose monitor (a sizeable number of the continuous glucose monitor systems rely on a cellphone app, smartphones are becoming ubiquitous hardware/software.)

It might be a funny stunt, but there could be some serious consequences.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

#57

It's probably a flipper zero. There is a Bluetooth iOS spamming script which can cause the devices to freeze or crash.

It's also possible via something way cheaper, like an ESP32 (~US$1.5), e.g. using https://github.com/ckcr4lyf/EvilAppleJuice-ESP32 (Disclaimer: I am the author)

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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"nearby" + plaform specificity? This screams Bluetooth. Side note: iOS's BT stack has a handful of oddly specific requirements for peripherals. It wouldn't surprise me that those requirements precipitate from... cough design oversights.

This was around a decade ago, but I remember having a use case where sending too much data to the Bluetooth stack on iPhone would crash the Bluetooth stack so hard that only a factory reset would fix it. I have no doubt that lingering vulnerabilities exist in that stack.

To be fair to apple, Bluetooth is a hot mess

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Speaking from experience, it is not. My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day. Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.

Sounds like your school sucked and a phone was the band-aid. I doubt you are alone in this kind of ‘education’ (using the word very lightly) induced misery, but escapism via device is not much good when the real problem is the systemic misuse of time and resources in our schools.

My school was actually very academically good, and psychopedagogycally too. The teachers were often kind and so was the rest of the staff. Hell, even the classmates were cool most of the time.

I consider myself quite lucky when reading Americans' complaints about their schools and recesses, with sentences such as "bring back recess!". I shudder to think of what goes on in some districts compared to what I had, which was overall quite sufficient and well spaced-out.

The real problem was just me. Or, if I had to put the blame on someone else, it was my parents and the school authorities which didn't really help much. Not out of bad faith or anything, just of simple ignorance or unwillingness to think of it as important enough to warrant the help I actually needed.

And to the other OC's point: not all phone use is bad. Not all "scrolling" is bad. I was quite internet-literate for my age at that time, in which, by the way, the internet wasn't the algorithmic ML doom-driven nightmare it can sometimes be today.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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post #56

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Do this in the wrong school district and they'll put you in prison. Absolutely ridiculous.

Do this around people with type 1 diabetes, and there's a chance you're wiping out their glucose monitor (a sizeable number of the continuous glucose monitor systems rely on a cellphone app, smartphones are becoming ubiquitous hardware/software.) It might be a funny stunt, but there could be some serious consequences.

This is ridiculous. Critical safety functions should not be dependent on a unreliable medium that can be easily disrupted. There must always be a fallback mechanism.
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