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Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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The prices on his website are rediculous. thesearchservice.com - 2 million! You don't even get searchservice.com with this domain. Simarly .org and .net are not even registered meaning after buying this you could be facing competition from similar names. I find squatters are the bane of the internet. My little brother had a small gaming message board where he and his friends would prepare for games. No seo value.. lo…

Similar experience here, domain still on sale, no interest.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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I think we should institute a Homesteading Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_principle ) for domains. You can claim a domain as long as you use it for a legitimate purpose instead of just parking on it. There would be details to hash out for sure, but in the end I think we would have a much better system in place.

That's a terrible idea. People would just create fake purposes for the websites.. and then who would be responsible to decide if a purpose is legitimate or not?

Wouldn't it just be a return to the days when domains were free? Back in the mid-'90s, when people I knew registered vanity domains, they tended to come up with some ridiculous expansion of the name to make it look official. Nobody ever checked that "foo" really meant "fraternal otter organization" (or whatever), so those would become the top line in whois.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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some say that the future will be app-based and that domain-names and tlds will be a thing of the past, we'll see. I know a lot of people who say they hate squatters, then they have an "awesome idea" for a project, they'll register 10 domains, the project is never finished and they put their page on sedo in the hope someone clicks on an ad or buys the domain and they won't let go because it's just $10 a year and maybe…

Domain camping is scummy because it rewards specialization in a skill that adds no discernable value whatsoever to society. It is the definition of leeching off of other people's work. That it's legal and "how business works" is irrelevant to whether it's worthwhile. In cases where they hop on accidentally expired domains (this is popular) are effectively legal forms of blackmail.

why should it be worthwhile and why should it add value to society? if registering were free i'd see your point or if not everybody were allowed to register

how would you play football? for every goal a team scores you have to score an own-goal or let the others score because it would be unfair otherwise?

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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I feel like we need a chance in policy that makes this practice not worth the trouble. I see no value that he gives the internet. I may be bias though, I can't grab the .com variant of a non profit school I work for because someone like him owns it and wont accept offers for less then $600 bucks.

some say that the future will be app-based and that domain-names and tlds will be a thing of the past, we'll see. I know a lot of people who say they hate squatters, then they have an "awesome idea" for a project, they'll register 10 domains, the project is never finished and they put their page on sedo in the hope someone clicks on an ad or buys the domain and they won't let go because it's just $10 a year and maybe…

"...that's not how business works."

"It's how business works" isn't a justification. A business model being legal and profitable does not make it ethical.

My understanding is, the intention behind society's laws and social norms is for all legal and profitable business models to serve the common good in some small way. What good do squatters do the world, in any way, shape, or form, whatsoever? The effect they have on the world is for good projects to be harder for people to use, by taking up all the good domains. That makes this a bug in our society, that I, at least, would appreciate being addressed.

If you register 10 domains and your project doesn't happen, don't put it on Sedo, let the domain expire like your project did. If you put the domain up for sale, you're already committing to not use the domain to "someday" finish your project.

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Domain camping is scummy because it rewards specialization in a skill that adds no discernable value whatsoever to society. It is the definition of leeching off of other people's work. That it's legal and "how business works" is irrelevant to whether it's worthwhile. In cases where they hop on accidentally expired domains (this is popular) are effectively legal forms of blackmail.

why should it be worthwhile and why should it add value to society? if registering were free i'd see your point or if not everybody were allowed to register how would you play football? for every goal a team scores you have to score an own-goal or let the others score because it would be unfair otherwise?

Football is a competitive zero-sum game. Someone wins, someone loses.

The world isn't like that at all. Everyone having enough to eat is strictly better than some people starving and some people having twice as much to eat.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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Entrepreneurs build things. Domain snatchers/ squatters are not entrepreneurs.

Entrepreneurs take advantage of business opportunities. And it IS a business opportunity. Fact is people pay for those domains. Let the down-votes commence.

A business opportunity being legal and profitable does not make it ethical.

My understanding is, the intention behind society's laws and social norms is for all legal and profitable businesses to serve the common good in some small way. What good do squatters do the world, in any way, shape, or form, whatsoever? The effect they have on the world is for good projects to be harder for people to use, by taking up all the good domains. That makes this a bug in our society, that I, at least, would appreciate being addressed.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

some say that the future will be app-based and that domain-names and tlds will be a thing of the past, we'll see. I know a lot of people who say they hate squatters, then they have an "awesome idea" for a project, they'll register 10 domains, the project is never finished and they put their page on sedo in the hope someone clicks on an ad or buys the domain and they won't let go because it's just $10 a year and maybe…

Domain camping is scummy because it rewards specialization in a skill that adds no discernable value whatsoever to society. It is the definition of leeching off of other people's work. That it's legal and "how business works" is irrelevant to whether it's worthwhile. In cases where they hop on accidentally expired domains (this is popular) are effectively legal forms of blackmail.

Man buys 14,962 tickets to a football game in 24 hours. Plans on selling them later at a profit.

Man buys 14,962 acres of land in 24 hours and plans on selling it later at a profit.

I'm not sure when I am supposed to get mad.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Domain camping is scummy because it rewards specialization in a skill that adds no discernable value whatsoever to society. It is the definition of leeching off of other people's work. That it's legal and "how business works" is irrelevant to whether it's worthwhile. In cases where they hop on accidentally expired domains (this is popular) are effectively legal forms of blackmail.

Man buys 14,962 tickets to a football game in 24 hours. Plans on selling them later at a profit. Man buys 14,962 acres of land in 24 hours and plans on selling it later at a profit. I'm not sure when I am supposed to get mad.

Bank buys 14,962 shares of a company with a HFT system to sell them off 2.854 seconds later.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

some say that the future will be app-based and that domain-names and tlds will be a thing of the past, we'll see. I know a lot of people who say they hate squatters, then they have an "awesome idea" for a project, they'll register 10 domains, the project is never finished and they put their page on sedo in the hope someone clicks on an ad or buys the domain and they won't let go because it's just $10 a year and maybe…

"...that's not how business works." "It's how business works" isn't a justification. A business model being legal and profitable does not make it ethical. My understanding is, the intention behind society's laws and social norms is for all legal and profitable business models to serve the common good in some small way. What good do squatters do the world, in any way, shape, or form, whatsoever? The effect they have o…

I've registered a healthy number of domains over the years for projects that didn't go anywhere, including most recently a brandable two-syllable domain that contained two search terms that described the business. I didn't park it, and if after it became obvious I didn't need it if anyone genuine had approached, I would have let them have it. I let it go when it expired, and it immediately got snapped up by a domainer who is now asking $K for it. I don't think your suggested approach solves the problem.

Re: Meet the 'Mann' who registered 14,962 domains in 24 hours

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I think we should institute a Homesteading Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_principle ) for domains. You can claim a domain as long as you use it for a legitimate purpose instead of just parking on it. There would be details to hash out for sure, but in the end I think we would have a much better system in place.

I'm pretty sure for .au domains you need to have a connexion with the domain (either it being your name or the name of a registered business you own.)
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