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Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Having children just underscored the importance of looking out for everyone to me. The better everyone is doing, the safer the world is for my kids.

Sure, but the sentiment changed from "we can all fight this together" to "we can all fight this together AFTER I've secured my child".

ITT: we enact the tragedy of the commons, but justify it because of "muh baby"

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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It depends on your moral philosophy. To give an extreme, hedonistic utilitarianism says it is. I'm not that extreme, but there are limits to what I'll spend money on, in light of the opportunity cost of helping others. Sending my kid to college for the equivalent of providing full cost-of-living to a thousand people for 200 days? Gladly. Buy a car for the same amount? No matter my income, I wouldn't do it. It's a fri…

I don't see how picking a philosophy then claiming the outcome is rational, while picking a different philosophy will lead to a claim that the outcome is irrational is anything more than just quibbling over inconsistent semantics.

Values don't come from logic. My values can be:

- The greatest good for the greatest number, where good is defined by happiness

... by self-growth

... by adherence to a code of behavior

- Loyalty to family and country

- Improve humanity by euthanizing inferior individuals

- Save the environment from humanity

- Subjugate the environment for humanity

... and so on. Those have no logic behind them. They're just values. They're arbitrary.

Logic comes in after that, in what you do from there.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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I would continue discussing this with you, but if you object to people buying a bag of chips, I can draw a relatively easy conclusion to your overall opinion on the social safety net and probably tax policy. It's not worth my time.

That would be your assumption due to your own political bias. That reflects on you, not me. Like I legitimately just want the system to be more efficient lol. It must be hard for you to talk to people?

If you "legitimately" want efficiency then you support just giving people $250 outright in cash, not locking it behind food stamps. How inefficient is it to give people 250 that theyre locked to spending on only one aspect of their lives? I would posit, having done it myself, that you could easily feed yourself and probably at least 2 people on half that. If the people are left with 125 that they can ONLY use on food, of course they'll use it for junk - at least that gives them some value at least as far as life enjoyment even if it's bad for them. Give them cash and I would bet they'd put it to much better use on bills, outstanding debts, laundry, etc.
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