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Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day! Where does this data come from? Is it global or specific to a country? It seems like quite a lot. Can't believe Spotify, which I assume people listen to during work or commute so would potentially be higher, has only 5 hours/month compared to 43h/month from Netflix. That's why I'm curious to know the source of the data.

I work from home and have something on the TV all day, so these stats seem reasonable to me.

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#52
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Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day! Where does this data come from? Is it global or specific to a country? It seems like quite a lot. Can't believe Spotify, which I assume people listen to during work or commute so would potentially be higher, has only 5 hours/month compared to 43h/month from Netflix. That's why I'm curious to know the source of the data.

> Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day!

While the author doesn’t actually know how many hours subscribers spend, we do know that a subscription is used by several people in a household. If we take a conservative view of on average two people per subscription (e.g. you and your partner), a combined 1 hour per day seems very reasonable.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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While the numbers might be a bit hit and miss, the comparison with individual creators is fascinating and definitely hits upon something that keeps me from subscribing to patreons/etc. I don't have just one creator who I would consistently want to support the most, there are probably 10-20 who I would like to support, however I'm not going to pay 10x of them $5/h for content when YouTube is 1x $0.50/h (and has their…

I had an idea for a pay-per-minute youtube, where your time watched gets credited to the creator. I would rather just pay per use than worry about whether I'm using my subscriptions enough to be worth it.

That's sort of how YouTube premium actually works; creators are paid an allocation based on time watched for premium users to replace ad revenue.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

#54

While the numbers might be a bit hit and miss, the comparison with individual creators is fascinating and definitely hits upon something that keeps me from subscribing to patreons/etc. I don't have just one creator who I would consistently want to support the most, there are probably 10-20 who I would like to support, however I'm not going to pay 10x of them $5/h for content when YouTube is 1x $0.50/h (and has their…

> I would like to support

This is the attitude that makes people fork over $70/hr to CGPGrey. I like these people's content, and want to support them too. But they don't need my financial support. They're all making way more money than me and probably you. If they wanted some sort of micropayment they could ask for it, but they're all pushing for the $10/month rate instead. Your $1/mo is so inconsequential to them that they don't actually want it. So don't worry about it.

Just support them by thumbs-up-ing their videos and don't worry too much about their finances. They're fine.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Brave figured this out long ago with their BAT system IMO. Basically automated micropayments for content consumption (I mean, Basic Attention Token, what's in a name). You can either buy BAT directly or watch private-by-default ads, which takes away one of the biggest ethical qualms one can have with adblocking too. I know that HN has a prety small but ultra-vocal minority that will hate on Brave any chance they get,…

I do have a problem with the Brave/BAT system here, because it lacks consent from the creators. Brave show the user ads and grants them BAT, the user "gives" the BAT to the creator, and almost all creators won't know about this so it's in a black hole (controlled by Brave?). If I were a creator I'm not sure I'd like that, specifically not being able to opt-out at all(?) or at least not without signing up and giving m…

The BAT only leaves the user wallet if the creators joins the program. There is no black hole.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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post #27
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Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day! Where does this data come from? Is it global or specific to a country? It seems like quite a lot. Can't believe Spotify, which I assume people listen to during work or commute so would potentially be higher, has only 5 hours/month compared to 43h/month from Netflix. That's why I'm curious to know the source of the data.

I'm surprised by the cost. Is it really $23/month in the United States? I paid €13.50 a month, which seems to be about $14.50 for the ad-free level. And even that is a big price increase on what it used to be, which is why I unsubscribed...

Netflix plans and their prices in the US: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Explains why Spotify and Kindle Unlimited is an automatic yes from me, and new fiction hard copies much less so, based on my usage. - Spotify: 65k minutes a year, 90h/mo, so around 0.13/h I’m a fast reader, so a novel averages 2-5 hours for me, probably 4h would be a fair guess. Last few years have averaged 150 titles a year on KU, so… 50hr/mo and 0.25/h in costs. And that print novel is usually 15-25 these days new……

If you use Libby then it's tax dollars you've already paid that you're using. So marginal cost is $0/h.

Maybe I'm not trying to read books in the target market that my local library is trying to serve with what it has available on Libby, but I probably have a 5% success rate with books I'm trying to read actually being available on Libby.

(Setting aside the very hostile payment structure that Libby imposes on libraries, which makes it look far less attractive as a tax-payer now that I know how it works)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there would be interest in a non-crypto version of the Brave program. In theory, that's exactly what they do: you set a total monthly donation and which creators you want to support, and the browser keeps track of how much each should get at the end of the month. Unfortunately, what ended up happening is that the program is too complicated for people with disposable income who would be interested and it g…

There was a startup many years ago that I can't remember the name of this who did a similar micropayment tipping sort of thing. The problem was that they essentially collected money on behalf of creators who had no idea the platform existed and they would have to then go and sign up to retrieve funds. I don't want to support creators through something they don't consent to using like that.

That might also have been Brave. Tom Scott was targeted by their crap[0] and I recall them fucking about with unsolicited donations for the archive.is operator as well.

It seems their business model has changed nowadays (unless they've lapsed again, which Brave has done a few times I think?) but that's definitely been the Brave model in the past.

[0]: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-br...

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

#59

If the author is like me, I would not count the time I spend looking for something to watch on Netflix as watching Netflix. I am gobsmacked that he finds 43 hours a month of content, month in and month out. Full disclosure: former Netflix subscriber.

They have a lot of children's content.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there would be interest in a non-crypto version of the Brave program. In theory, that's exactly what they do: you set a total monthly donation and which creators you want to support, and the browser keeps track of how much each should get at the end of the month. Unfortunately, what ended up happening is that the program is too complicated for people with disposable income who would be interested and it g…

There was a startup many years ago that I can't remember the name of this who did a similar micropayment tipping sort of thing. The problem was that they essentially collected money on behalf of creators who had no idea the platform existed and they would have to then go and sign up to retrieve funds. I don't want to support creators through something they don't consent to using like that.

I always had a vague idea that this is something a blockchain would work well for. I never looked into enough to figure out the details though.
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