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Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

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Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

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It's a pretty bad dark joke, but considering it illegal? Especially by an american company, freedom of speech and all that?

The Germans are not famous for making jokes about killing Jews, and their market: their rules.

Sure, but the germans did not outlaw jokes, even if they're germans.

It's not calling for violence, it's not denying the holocaust (quite the oposite), so why would it be illegal?

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#52
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I’m curious if X will manage to build up the moderation tools and automation without rehiring as many moderators as they used to have. Looking at the requirements, some of those challenging - preventing fast dissemination of illegal content.

Having tried the "Added context" contributions, I think Twitter solved the moderation. It simply works. There's an abundance of free labor and it scales linearly with controversy/spread.

But that doesn't remove the content. It just sticks a label underneath it. And it's only on the most popular tweets.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#53
Liberalism was meant to end this kind of EU censorship. Parliaments were supposed to be the place where diverse and illiberal speech was dissolved into a new liberal language, not through brain dead regulation and technocratism.

If Meta properties are the example of what to expect from the future locked-down internet, prepare for the internet and much more to wither on the vine and die a slow and sad death.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#54

The EU government doesn't give a crap about unfair social media algorithms when they benefit their authoritarian agendas (at the expense of citizens) but as soon as soon as the algorithms go against their own agenda, they immediately launch a commission! And, ironically, the algorithms today are less constrained than they've ever been.

You realize that the European Commission[1,2] is a big part of the executive branch of the EU, yeah? (The other one being the european council). So if there is something as an "EU government", it is the commission.

[1] https://commission.europa.eu/index_en [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#55

The EU government doesn't give a crap about unfair social media algorithms when they benefit their authoritarian agendas (at the expense of citizens) but as soon as soon as the algorithms go against their own agenda, they immediately launch a commission! And, ironically, the algorithms today are less constrained than they've ever been.

Exactly, "the effectiveness of measures taken to combat information manipulation" sure didn't seem to be an issue for decades for the UE commission when thr manipulation was done by a cell at Twitter itself, such as removing trending conversative hashtags or suspending right-wing EU politicians.

Of course now that the platform allows more balanced opinions, any power available will be used to silence (growing) opposition.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

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post #45

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I will take the counter bet, and even go as far as saying X will remain available in EU for the next month at least.

Because X will have gone bankrupt and bust worldwide by then?

Nope, because I don't think X is going anywhere anytime soon, even though its demise is reported as inevitable at least every week.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#57
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Interesting that Community Notes is mentioned, because it's by far the most reliable anti-"disinformation" mechanism I've seen. The "bluecheck" system has been absolutely wrecked, though. Even with the haphazard patching of grey and gold ticks, a bluecheck more often than not is the sign of self-promoted nonsense.

Yep, the great thing about community notes is, that it leaves the tweet unchanged and just adds context (or refutal, or whatever). It turns censorship into (hopefully) "argumented refutal".

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

#58
Just pull out of the EU. It's overtly hostile to freedom of speech. Run Twitter from the US, and let the EU erect their own "Great Firewall" if they want to block it. F500s (or at least the ones still advertising) can pay for ads through their US subsidiaries, and the handful of remaining Twitter employees in Europe can either take a relocation package or severance.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

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post #26

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Nothing EU specific. Most (all?) European countries have a very different view on freedom of speech than the US.

"Europe 2.0" aka "the usa" has a better free speech implementation than "Europe 1.0". So yes different as in bad.

The European free speech legal infrastructure dates from the ECHR in 1950, and was somewhat imposed by the Allies after the war. As well as a lot of people who wanted to avoid having populist incitement to genocide again.

Re: Commission opens formal proceedings against X under the Digital Services Act

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Nothing EU specific. Most (all?) European countries have a very different view on freedom of speech than the US.

Yes, specifically that people shouldn't have it.

This is just wrong. In many EU countries the free speech protections are quite extensive (and some of us live in countries that have protected speech longer than the U.S have been around).
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