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Re: Google Imagen 2

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I hate that you need a Google account to use it. I generally don’t mind creating yet another account on the internet since one can easily create such accounts with temp. email addresses, for example; but with Google is trickier (sometimes they even ask a mobile phone number and all when signing up), and I prefer not to have a dummy google account which I use alongside my real google account for fear of being locked o…

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Re: Google Imagen 2

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The prompt "A shot of a 32-year-old female, up and coming conservationist in a jungle; athletic with short, curly hair and a warm smile" produced an impressive image. But I ran the same prompt 3 times on my laptop in just a few minutes, and got 3 almost-equally impressive images. (using stable diffusion and a free model called devlishphotorealism_sdxl15) https://imgur.com/a/4otrN17

While they are similar in quality, your images have much more of the saturated and high contrast nature of AI generated images, and this is very noticeable to my eye.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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The prompt "A shot of a 32-year-old female, up and coming conservationist in a jungle; athletic with short, curly hair and a warm smile" produced an impressive image. But I ran the same prompt 3 times on my laptop in just a few minutes, and got 3 almost-equally impressive images. (using stable diffusion and a free model called devlishphotorealism_sdxl15) https://imgur.com/a/4otrN17

How are two completely different models from different groups, converging on what looks like the exact same person? Number 1 and 3 are eerily similar. I don't understand.

It's because the only thing these models can do is rip off existing images, and the prompt is very specific.

"Generative AI" is a learned, lossy compression codec. You should not be surprised that the range of outputs for a given input seems limited.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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I asked imagen 2 to generate a transparent product icon image, and it generated an actual grey and white square pattern as the background of the image... https://imgur.com/a/KA2yWHp

That's because it was trained on RGB images without an alpha channel. There is currently no public image generator that understands alpha channel.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Google desperately needs to get their platform/docs in order. It is incredibly difficult to use any of their new AI stuff. I have access to Imagen (which was a rodeo to get on its own), but do not know if it v1 or v2 for example.

They need to ditch Sundar, I don't know what the hell they are thinking. Google so badly needs reorganization.

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Re: Google Imagen 2

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This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

They've been emailing me saying I have access for quite some time as part of the Trusted Tester program., yet, I still do not. I can caption images but nothing else. So disappointed.

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From what I understand, Google has a unusually large number of engineers who are happy to coast, and would actively avoid taking on anything important. That seems more of an issue to me compared to middle management bloat.

I've seen this claim thrown around a few times but haven't really seen any evidence that it's true, beyond a few unconvincing anecdotes.

How come you're readily willing to accept that managers will coast, but not that engineers will coast?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand, Google has a unusually large number of engineers who are happy to coast, and would actively avoid taking on anything important. That seems more of an issue to me compared to middle management bloat.

I've seen this claim thrown around a few times but haven't really seen any evidence that it's true, beyond a few unconvincing anecdotes.

What kind of evidence would this involve?

Would you have agreed this was the case at Twitter for a while?

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Fiona Cicconi, Google’s chief people officer, Google employed 30,000 managers before the recent layoffs. The hard truth is Google needs a Twitter style culling. Take all those billions you're burning and give it to people with a builder mentality, not career sheeple. Unfortunately the same executives who would oversee this are the ones who need to be culled first.

From what I understand, Google has a unusually large number of engineers who are happy to coast, and would actively avoid taking on anything important. That seems more of an issue to me compared to middle management bloat.

Both may be true. Culture isn't really necessarily that siloed between engineering and management.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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I hate that you need a Google account to use it. I generally don’t mind creating yet another account on the internet since one can easily create such accounts with temp. email addresses, for example; but with Google is trickier (sometimes they even ask a mobile phone number and all when signing up), and I prefer not to have a dummy google account which I use alongside my real google account for fear of being locked o…

> (e.g., google may think “this guy has two accounts, same computer same ip… let’s ban him”)

FWIW I think I have 5+ google accounts. Have had them since gmail was in beta and have never been banned

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