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Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by erxam »

1B05H1N wrote: post #40

Sorry, why would I pay 20/year bucks for this when I have my own website/infra?

Even without taking into account the time investment in maintaining your own infra, it compares favorably with everything else. Even the most dirt-cheap VPS is a few bucks more expensive on a yearly basis by itself, and you still have to buy domains and similar.

Running your own infra only really works out if you either have access to great hardware for super-cheap or WANT the experience from setting everything up.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by p4bl0 »

1B05H1N wrote: post #40

Sorry, why would I pay 20/year bucks for this when I have my own website/infra?

If you have your own infrastructure to host all of these services then you're probably not the target audience. It's ok, it's my case too.

But you have to admit that $20/year is quite cheap for all of what is provided here, without having to manage it all yourself, and with a "no trackers no bullshit" way of doing things.

It's really the kind of services I don't need but would almost like to need! The last time I had this feeling was about Neocities :).

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by politelemon »

PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

Just tried and I see someone else also tried after seeing your comment.

> The same snapshot had been made 25 minutes ago. You can make new capture of this URL after 1 hour.

But yeah it's strange, nothing appears in the archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://bw.omg.l...

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by contrarian1234 »

PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

I think that's great.. archiving should be opt-in not opt-out

You can read and access my work/words as I want. And once I don't or change my mind you can't. Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity .. That's how things should work - but that's just my opinion

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by dankwizard »

jjulius wrote: post #45
dankwizard wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is an endorsement just running the homepage through ChatGPT and wording everything slightly differently?

It's odd how, "I don't like the writing" somehow seems to mean that people are totally fine assuming ChatGPT wrote something. Feels like a dismissal almost as low effort as the point you're trying to make.

No - You missed my point.

I was just in a roundabout way saying this article is just paraphrasing the homepage of the service, much like what ChatGPT does when it writes an answer for you.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by bovermyer »

bovermyer wrote: post #32

I checked out Omg.lol when it first got popular on HN ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269772 ). At the time, I thought it was an amalgamation of things I already did on my own or otherwise had a community for (e.g., Neocities, Tilde Town). Now, though, I think I get it. There's something to be said for sustained energy.

OK, I bit.

Here's my spot: https://dungeonhack.omg.lol/

I look forward to meeting you!

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by jadbox »

bovermyer wrote: post #32

I checked out Omg.lol when it first got popular on HN ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269772 ). At the time, I thought it was an amalgamation of things I already did on my own or otherwise had a community for (e.g., Neocities, Tilde Town). Now, though, I think I get it. There's something to be said for sustained energy.

> Now, though, I think I get it.

What do you get now?

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by leononame »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #54
PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

I think that's great.. archiving should be opt-in not opt-out You can read and access my work/words as I want. And once I don't or change my mind you can't. Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity .. That's how things should work - but that's just my opinion

I Disagree. There's not a big difference between someone reading your stuff and saving it versus automatic archiving. Being able to delete what you said makes real discourse with a bad actor very hard if not impossible. If you change your mind, you are always free to rectify, but you shouldn't be able to pretend you never said this or that.

I know there's a line to draw somewhere, personal blogs aren't our countries' leaders' Twitter accounts or press conferences. Copying someone's copyrighted work in form of an archive might some legal implications I'm not aware of. But keeping things for posteriority is important and I don't believe people should be able to choose what part of their words and actions will be recorded and which won't.

Re: Omg.lol: An Oasis on the Internet

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Post by echelon »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #54
PenguinRevolver wrote: post #34

It's nice, the only problem I got with omg.lol is that Wayback Machine archives are unavailable for all domains. I'm concerned that this part of the internet won't be saved for others to see in the future.

I think that's great.. archiving should be opt-in not opt-out You can read and access my work/words as I want. And once I don't or change my mind you can't. Once someone posts something, you don't have a right to it in perpetuity .. That's how things should work - but that's just my opinion

Vehement disagree. Many of the early communities I participated in are gone forever, and it's a shame to think of how much more has been lost to time.

In the absolute limit, I hope our future descendents reconstruct the past light cone and can replay all of our biochemical thoughts and emotions. Perhaps even simulating our existence and perception to exacting precision.

Maybe they'll get to see t-rexes in their natural habitat, visit lost 90s websites, and feel what taking the organic chemistry final was like.

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