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Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by hurril »

ramijames wrote: post #45
hurril wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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No. It means exactly what I said. People read stuff like what you wrote and see exactly what kind of person you are. Try harder.

Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values. That speaks volumes about _you_. You are young and you have an ego problem, not a _other people's core values problem._

Yes, they can probably see parts of what kind of a person I am. Just like we can all see what kind of a person you are. A person that knows that there's something wrong with everybody else.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by texasdomtop »

ramijames wrote: post #6

I'm an experienced product designer with 25+ years of experience. I've been doing a job search across the US. I have three kids, two girls. I will never take them to a place like Texas. It is anathema to my core values as a person and as a parent. I'm shocked that a place like Texas became a draw for tech companies at all.

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Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by jemmyw »

j4yav wrote: post #13
ramijames wrote: post #6

I'm an experienced product designer with 25+ years of experience. I've been doing a job search across the US. I have three kids, two girls. I will never take them to a place like Texas. It is anathema to my core values as a person and as a parent. I'm shocked that a place like Texas became a draw for tech companies at all.

As an observer from afar it seems like the US is sorting itself into different places with different core values, so presumably whichever group finds your values anathema to theirs likes it there.

As an outside observer who is a little closer to it I think that's not really the dynamic. The states that are deeply conservative have a significant minority who are not conservative. The spread of conservative and liberal views also seems much much wider than you'd think - i.e. many conservative republican voters I've met seem to have little interest in LGBT issues at all or are supportive. They're fiscally conservative. And many people who are otherwise liberal do want to see less immigration.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by chrisco255 »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #28
chrisco255 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just an anecdote, not a meaningful statement. Housing has gotten expensive everywhere in the past few years. From 2010 to 2020, the latino population grew by 35%, the black population grew by 26% and the asian population grew by 96%. https://www.austinchamber.com/economic-development/austin-pr...

Thanks I just meant that the article did address it. The ad for Austin you posted cites census statistics from 4 years ago, which are more meaningful, but not the topic, and they still show the city as majority white.

It cites 2020 statistics, which are 3 years old, the city has not changed so dramatically in the past 3 years, it's just agitative hyperbole. Most important is that census stats are the most accurate stats.

Most of the United States is majority white, being a country founded by white people, this should not be a shocking fact nor a point of contention.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by catlover76 »

hurril wrote: post #51
ramijames wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It means exactly what I said. People read stuff like what you wrote and see exactly what kind of person you are. Try harder.

Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values. That speaks volumes about _you_. You are young and you have an ego problem, not a _other people's core values problem._ Yes, they can probably see parts of what kind of a person I am. Just like we can all see what kind of a person you are. A person that knows that there's somethin…

> Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values.

He doesn't like or agree with the values, so he doesn't want to live there. You think he isn't entitled to his own values?

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by hurril »

catlover76 wrote: post #55
hurril wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values. That speaks volumes about _you_. You are young and you have an ego problem, not a _other people's core values problem._ Yes, they can probably see parts of what kind of a person I am. Just like we can all see what kind of a person you are. A person that knows that there's somethin…

> Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values. He doesn't like or agree with the values, so he doesn't want to live there. You think he isn't entitled to his own values?

It's just very intolerant in the actual sense of the word.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by cantSpellSober »

chrisco255 wrote: post #54
cantSpellSober wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks I just meant that the article did address it. The ad for Austin you posted cites census statistics from 4 years ago, which are more meaningful, but not the topic, and they still show the city as majority white.

It cites 2020 statistics, which are 3 years old, the city has not changed so dramatically in the past 3 years, it's just agitative hyperbole. Most important is that census stats are the most accurate stats. Most of the United States is majority white, being a country founded by white people, this should not be a shocking fact nor a point of contention.

I didn't write the article, their point is that aspects of it (like the housing market) have changed in that specific period, not the period the ad you linked to discusses

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by catlover76 »

hurril wrote: post #56
catlover76 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Says the person who cannot live in a state bigger and more populous than many countries because he thinks they have the wrong core values. He doesn't like or agree with the values, so he doesn't want to live there. You think he isn't entitled to his own values?

It's just very intolerant in the actual sense of the word.

? He didn't say (for example) that we should be suppressing the speech of those who would advocate for these values with which he doesn't agree, or something like that.

He simply said he doesn't want to live in a place with those values, which values he links to a certain degree of disregard to the lives and health of his daughters. Seems more intolerant to try to attach approbation to someone's expression of their opinion.

Would you like to go live in NYC or SF? In addition to citing the exorbitant cost, you probably reckon you might not like living in those places from a cultural perspective. Nothing wrong with that; I personally have no desire to live in SF, and I wouldn't want to raise a family in either place.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by chrisco255 »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #57
chrisco255 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cites 2020 statistics, which are 3 years old, the city has not changed so dramatically in the past 3 years, it's just agitative hyperbole. Most important is that census stats are the most accurate stats. Most of the United States is majority white, being a country founded by white people, this should not be a shocking fact nor a point of contention.

I didn't write the article, their point is that aspects of it (like the housing market) have changed in that specific period, not the period the ad you linked to discusses

The demographics of Austin have not meaningfully changed in the past 3 years. It's not in the data, it's just a made up hit piece. Even if it was slightly more white than it had been 3 years ago, no one say why that would be a bad thing.

Re: Austin sees mass exodus of ex-Silicon Valley tech companies, here's why

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Post by hurril »

catlover76 wrote: post #58
hurril wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just very intolerant in the actual sense of the word.

? He didn't say (for example) that we should be suppressing the speech of those who would advocate for these values with which he doesn't agree, or something like that. He simply said he doesn't want to live in a place with those values, which values he links to a certain degree of disregard to the lives and health of his daughters. Seems more intolerant to try to attach approbation to someone's expression of their o…

I know what he said, the text is still there.

I don't care what values people have, and the fact that you seem to have gone ahead and attached core values to me (opposite to those of the parent) is also interesting. It's intolerant in the very same way.

To me, people get to decide what they believe in and select core values all they want. It isn't any of my business. I can live in TX or i NYC. Doesn't matter. You do you, but maybe we can be friends (anyway?)

This incessant projecting of bad character, lesser value, the wrong core values, etc, that a lot of people seem to be doing, is not good. It's the core of establishing differences between people; it is the mechanism core to racism and other xenophobias.

When you say: I'm good and not like those other people over there (where I can't even live!) - that is the same sentiment as in saying: We don't take kindly to stranger over here.

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