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Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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> You don't need specific hardware, it will run on non-TPM devices as well. Oh, because the update button in the settings says my hardware does not meet the requirements.

I meant if you do a clean install via UUP dump generated ISO or a Rufus modified ISO, then it bypassed the TPM check. Updating an existing install on non compliant HW via the official update button obviously doesn't work (unless there's some hacks for it that came out, I don't know I always do a clean install between major versions since I don't want all the years of cruft and changes from one version to be carried o…

> Updating an existing install on non compliant HW via the official update button > do a clean install via UUP dump generated ISO or a Rufus modified ISO, then it bypassed the TPM check

I'll have backup my stuff before a clean install then, not ready yet but thanks for the guide! I'll do it when I get the time.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Can vouch for this option. Works reliably but still worth disconnecting internet to make sure local account creation is easily available.

That won't do it any more. Now you have to invoke a command prompt on setup and run some commands to bypass online account requirement. Until they close that loophole also. Absolute turd of an OS. In only have it on a separate partition for games that wont run on Proton.

Setup /product server

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Yes and No. A lot of folks will go with newer hardware due to lacking TPM, etc. support, but those people were likely to upgrade at 1-3 year intervals anyway. A majority of users will just keep running Windows 10, with or without sec updates until they can no longer buy a system with 10. There are still Windows 7 and Vista installs out there, running every day, and I don't mean outliers. I know a clinic that runs Win…

If neither the Windows 8 machine nor the Windows 3.11 machine are networked with any path to the internet, they can limp along for quite some time without replacement. The bigger worry is this ancient hardware blowing a cap and leaving you unable to complete some vital function for the week.

If they were isolated, I wouldn't care much. Luckily the 3.11 machine was NOT public facing.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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If I recall correctly, when Windows 10 was released, it was touted as the last version of Windows, the evergreen version with incremental updates. It took Microsoft less than a decade to break that promise.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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> How's things like sleep, hibernate, system wide touchpad gestures, HW video decode and fractional scaling working in the land of linux these days? I use a ThinkPad, so I prefer the TrackPoint and rarely use the TrackPad, but everything else works excellently, especially with KDE.

>but everything else works excellently, especially with KDE Everything else? Including Wayland, fractional scaling on non-Qt apps, sleep, hibernate and HW video decode? Yeah, I know if you have very common HW and restricted use cases, like track-point, USB mouse, display without fractional scaling, not using sleep/hibernate etc, then everything just works but those also "just worked" on Linux for the past 20 years. I…

GTK3/4 don't have proper fractional scaling anywhere, as far as I know. Also pretty sure it's not planned before GTK5.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Do I get this right? Windows 10 end of support will push many, many people to modern hardware? Seems like HW companies will have very good year 2025/2026 brb purchasing stocks

> brb purchasing stocks AAPL and ARM? ;)

I thought about Amd and Intel

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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I moved from Windows 10 to Linux at the end of 2021 and don't miss it a bit. Except for Steam, Reaper, and Discord, all other software I use is FOSS, and it's so dang good! I feel bad for the people who have to stick with Windows because they need to use Adobe or Microsoft products. Desktop Linux is in such a good place right now, and it's only getting better thanks to all the great developers.

How's things like sleep, hibernate, system wide touchpad gestures, HW video decode and fractional scaling working in the land of linux these days? I know if you can live without those then Linux is daily drivable for a long time, but I need all of them to work flawlessly, and every time I try Linux on my bare metal laptop a lot of those features are still missing, janky or require research and tinkering. I really wan…

If you want to be 100% sure these things work, a number of companies are selling computers withnlinux preinstalled.

Support is also usually easy to check beforehand with a web search.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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Yes and No. A lot of folks will go with newer hardware due to lacking TPM, etc. support, but those people were likely to upgrade at 1-3 year intervals anyway. A majority of users will just keep running Windows 10, with or without sec updates until they can no longer buy a system with 10. There are still Windows 7 and Vista installs out there, running every day, and I don't mean outliers. I know a clinic that runs Win…

In all fairness, Windows 3.11 is so ancient that it is probably immune to (or overlooked by) most modern threats.

EICAR incoming!

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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I would have updated if it wasn't for Windows 11 requiring a specific hardware. I'll stick to Windows 10, when it dies, I'll probably force myself to switch to Fedora or something.

I would have updated if it wasn't for Windows 11 having the option to ungroup tasks removed. I heard the rumor they would bring it back one day, but this day hasn't arrived yet.

Re: Plan for Windows 10 End of Support

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I haven't had issues with any of that stuff (using Debian) for years. YMMV, of course.

It did vary, last time I checked, but I'm not up to date. Maybe time to try again.

With Debian, the key thing is that you usually have to install the non-free-firmware package to make things like WiFi work (anything that needs a proprietary blob). This isn't done automatically.
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