The pro-Israel information war • Hacker News Board

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by riku_iki » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:33 PM UTC

holmesworcester wrote: post #19

jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

Another possible explanation for this skew is that TikTok and IG are primarily video platforms. The videos of destruction and death in Gaza are far more horrific than corresponding videos in Israel, because the scale of what Israel is doing to Gaza is so much greater than what Gaza has done to Israel. Another way of saying it is, it makes sense that someone who spends hours on apps optimized for empathy-based addicti…

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by jakelazaroff » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:34 PM UTC

jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

> US views skew pro-israel, and GenZ is closer to 50/50, so if there's something going on online, it's not in favor of Israel.

That’s one interpretation. Another is that the skew would be even more pronounced if not for platforms prioritizing pro-Israel content.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by olliecornelia » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:34 PM UTC

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by Dalewyn » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:35 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #35

I think the behavior of the EU is more problematic TBH. Ursula VdL went heavily pro-israel the first day kind of giving carte blanche to israel for the following days This situation is not a good look for western response in general. The world is watching. Reminder that Srebrenica was 8000 deaths, but 17100 palestinians are justified losses.

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by Leary » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:36 PM UTC

jdross wrote: post #7

Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602 If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143... It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.…

>Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok

That's because TikTok is a global platform where the voices of 1.9 billion Muslims outweigh those of the 19 million Jews.

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Post by throwaway43256 » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:36 PM UTC

LarsDu88 wrote: post #23

metadat wrote: post #6

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HN gets rid of political stuff explicitly. I honestly think this is a good thing as virtually every other online forum devolves into emotionally driven politically charged clickbait content.

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by Animats » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:36 PM UTC

"That’s where the efforts of J-Ventures’ hasbara WhatsApp group come in. The group, which also includes attorneys and individuals affiliated with the influential American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), has tirelessly worked to fire employees and punish activists for expressing pro-Palestinian views."

Is that even legal under US law? Apparently it is in some states. Federal law does not, apparently, prohibit political discrimination. But some states do - California, New York, DC, Colorado, and North Dakota.[1]

This should be reported to the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force.[2] Anyone involved in such suppression activities may be considered an "unregistered foreign agent".[3] Anyone or any organization attempting to influence US policy on behalf of a foreign government is supposed to register. Here's the database.[4]

[1] https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/political-aff...

[2] https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/foreign-...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Ac...

[4] https://search.justice.gov/search?affiliate=justice_fara

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by kingkawn » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:36 PM UTC

rushingcreek wrote: post #29

master_crab wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anti-semitism in and of itself is unequivocally wrong. But conflating anti-Israeli views with anti-Semitic views does a disservice to Jews and Palestinians alike.

It’s obviously true that criticism of Israel isn’t inherently antisemitic. But that’s also a convenient excuse used by people who are actually antisemitic. Both of these things can be true at once.

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Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by anigbrowl » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:37 PM UTC

metadat wrote: post #6

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I don't think it's specific to this issue, there's a lot of people who insist 'no politics om HN' even when there is a very straightforward nexus between technology and politics.

Re: The pro-Israel information war

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Post by pazimzadeh » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 8:38 PM UTC

everybodyknows wrote: post #20

1970-01-01 wrote: post #11

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What did he say? Nothing new on his home page.

he tweeted a while back the number of palestinian vs israeli children who have died since october 7

there were way more palestinian children who had died, and some didn't like that being broadcast