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It's not "turning against each other", it was Russia's decision alone to break ties with the civilized world.
What is the meaning of civilized world?
Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
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Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this qualifies, as the definition is as follows: >prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. There is no discrimination on racial or ethnic lines going on. If Russia wouldn't have invaded the Ukraine they wouldn't…
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Repeat after me. Russians are not a race. Go troll elsewhere.
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#53Does any company fire their American customers because of the calamitous Iraq war and related war crimes? Do companies fire their Israeli customers because of the current bombing campaign? What about Argentinian customers? Melei has contempt for European style democracy. Should Chinese customers get the boot because of the horrific treatment of Uyghurs by the Chinese Party? Should Hetzner also fire their German custo…
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Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#54Does any company fire their American customers because of the calamitous Iraq war and related war crimes? Do companies fire their Israeli customers because of the current bombing campaign? What about Argentinian customers? Melei has contempt for European style democracy. Should Chinese customers get the boot because of the horrific treatment of Uyghurs by the Chinese Party? Should Hetzner also fire their German custo…
What about... what about... what about... Western Europe really tried after 1990 to integrate with Eastern Europe and it worked pretty well for most former socialist countries, but not with Russia and Belarus. And not for lack of trying on behalf of the Western European countries, if anything the West had been too naive for too long.
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as I know most cloud services of US big tech is still functioning in Russia. Including YouTube, Gmail, advertising services etc. Facebook was blocked the Russian government not Facebook itself. My guess is that the US authorities appreciate the data they can gather from these sources.
Which US hosting provider sells cloud infrastructure to Russian customers?
AWS for instance. You can't open a new account but the pre-existing ones are afaik still serviced. That may not last though.
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#56so even if postal address is changed, it will still mean termination, why?
Because they're not idiots? Hetzner doesn't want to end up in the cross hairs of authorities coming down on companies doing business with sanctioned entities. This is their legal department speaking, not the technicians and a change in postal address is so transparent that it will not work.
> Because they're not idiots?
Corporations are simultaneously sophisticated and idiots. Sometimes the output of sophisticated compliance pipeline is plainly idiotic.
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they're not idiots? Hetzner doesn't want to end up in the cross hairs of authorities coming down on companies doing business with sanctioned entities. This is their legal department speaking, not the technicians and a change in postal address is so transparent that it will not work.
> Because they're not idiots? Corporations are simultaneously sophisticated and idiots. Sometimes the output of sophisticated compliance pipeline is plainly idiotic.
Yes, but for Hetzner execs there is more at stake than $ here and they are more than aware of seeing a change of address in light of this notice as a fig leaf without substance. Not everybody is incompetent, even if some are.
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#58Unfortunately, a lot of russian companies (especially the dodgy ones) are registered in Cyprus
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#59I hope this is not going to be a massive hit for them financially -- I like Hetzner. On the flip side they might have some cheap 'server auction' on the block soon, I've been pondering a cross/upgrade for a little while already :-)
In the times I've checked, their "server auction" things don't really seem any obviously better than their standard options.
What sort of stuff do you look for that seems good?
Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Because they're not idiots? Corporations are simultaneously sophisticated and idiots. Sometimes the output of sophisticated compliance pipeline is plainly idiotic.
Yes, but for Hetzner execs there is more at stake than $ here and they are more than aware of seeing a change of address in light of this notice as a fig leaf without substance. Not everybody is incompetent, even if some are.
...and execs in western world paid consequences of their illegal decisions when, recently?