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Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by alemanek »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #12

Kagi is ok but I don't understand the level of gushing over it that I see here. I got the 100 query free trial a few months ago and haven't used it up yet. So I'm not willing to buy a monthly subscription for something I'd rarely (won't say never) use. A flat $20 for 500 queries would be fine and might last me a year or so.

For me it is a combination of the search results being of equal or slightly better quality combined with all the nice little touches (Lens, auto redirect, etc). I am trying to banish ads in general and Google specifically from my life so I am also a little biased.

Last 2 months I used around 500 searches each month. So, the unlimited pricing is good for me.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by alien_cat »

Perhaps this is not meant for me. I use gpt-4-turbo frequently, which costs only $5 per month. For the same price, if I were to purchase from Kagi, I would need to limit my quota, like using a different search engine for unit conversion or obtaining a simple Raspi pinout. Why design a product that encourages users to use it less? In my opinion, a $5 with limited searches doesn't justify the cost.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by widenrun »

aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

Exactly, it reminds me of this:

"Drift to low performance is a gradual process. If the system state plunged quickly, there would be an agitated corrective process. But if it drifts down slowly enough to erase the memory of (or belief in) how much better things used to be, everyone is lulled into lower and lower expectations, lower effort, lower performance."

-- From the book "Thinking in Systems".

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by MrJohz »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #12

Kagi is ok but I don't understand the level of gushing over it that I see here. I got the 100 query free trial a few months ago and haven't used it up yet. So I'm not willing to buy a monthly subscription for something I'd rarely (won't say never) use. A flat $20 for 500 queries would be fine and might last me a year or so.

I'm also not sure I quite get the love. I got the free trial, and I've set it as my browser's default search engine for now to get used to using it. The problem for me is that it's at best equivalent to, and at worst a lot poorer than the same search in Google. Which is a shame, because I've been finding Google less and less useful recently.

Maybe I need to fiddle around with the settings more, get some better filters in there. But part of the advantage of Google is not needing to fiddle - it knows that I probably want programming results if I search for "rust" and things like that. I'll stick Kagi out a bit longer, because I really like the idea of it, but I've been fairly disappointed so far.

EDIT: one specific criticism is that I speak English but live in Germany, so I typically want English-language results except around German-specific things where I want local results more. Setting my location to Germany results in a lot of German results for unrelated searches (e.g. documentation for some library, or information about an actor), but setting it to "international" makes it harder to find the local results I'm often looking for (e.g. libraries in my local area). Google isn't great at this either, but it gets it right a lot more often.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by mgaunard »

chrisandchris wrote: post #48
aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

Similar here. I didn't know Kagi until, as I remember, there was an article here on HN. I thought too why should I pay for search? Kagi basically won me after I realised I can exclude whole domains from search results - now Pinterest, Stackshare and all those AI-generated content filler sites are gone from my search results. Search results are great and it's just worth it. The only advantage Google so far has IMHO is…

That's actually something I dislike, I don't want my results to be different based on where I am.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by Dayshine »

MrJohz wrote: post #54
throwaway81523 wrote: post #12

Kagi is ok but I don't understand the level of gushing over it that I see here. I got the 100 query free trial a few months ago and haven't used it up yet. So I'm not willing to buy a monthly subscription for something I'd rarely (won't say never) use. A flat $20 for 500 queries would be fine and might last me a year or so.

I'm also not sure I quite get the love. I got the free trial, and I've set it as my browser's default search engine for now to get used to using it. The problem for me is that it's at best equivalent to, and at worst a lot poorer than the same search in Google. Which is a shame, because I've been finding Google less and less useful recently. Maybe I need to fiddle around with the settings more, get some better filter…

Why not just use bangs to change from the more common to less common region on a search by search basis?

Or just use the programming (or other) lens for documentation

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by salad-tycoon »

NewsGotHacked wrote: post #21

I bought a year of kagi and overly very satisfied. 2 things that annoy me about it: -I randomly get irrelevant international results as a US person (Amazon Canada and Amazon India for instance) -There are inconsistently labeled timestamps on things. I use reddit a lot when reviewing search results. Sometimes the reddit links are timestamped and sometimes they aren't. Leads to end up clicking on a reddit link that is…

Reddit time stamps has always been a problem for me in all the other search engines, not for you? I’ve also noticed Bing is now surfacing tons of Reddit results on just about every search but without me typing Reddit. I’m guessing my use of bing chat or something similarly creepy.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by pietrrrek »

mgaunard wrote: post #55
chrisandchris wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar here. I didn't know Kagi until, as I remember, there was an article here on HN. I thought too why should I pay for search? Kagi basically won me after I realised I can exclude whole domains from search results - now Pinterest, Stackshare and all those AI-generated content filler sites are gone from my search results. Search results are great and it's just worth it. The only advantage Google so far has IMHO is…

That's actually something I dislike, I don't want my results to be different based on where I am.

The results that you get in Google also depend on your location
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