I personally feel like outsourced delivery for hot food orders at peak hours is a flawed idea. I've used Grubhub and it seems like they try to group deliveries. In my situation, I had a driver pick up my food only to drive it around down and deliver it to me 40 minutes later. If I order from a place and they don't have a driver on staff, I won't order delivery.
DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
They aren't really viable business models to begin with. Only VC funding can keep these online platform up.
Not sure why you got downvoted, its true. These platforms are all a race to the bottom to capture market share and then jack up of prices to recover lost revenue. Overall, it ends up being a terrible experience for the customer and the driver/deliverer.
> a race to the bottom to capture market share
That is the real problem, not that the concept of food delivery is unprofitable by itself.
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
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Living wage > consumer excess. Walk to the restaurant if you can't afford it.
Agreed. Food delivery is a luxury that should only be afforded to the wealthy. There are far too many delivery drivers serving low income areas. We must price out those neighbourhoods immediately.
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#54They can keep it. I refuse to bribe someone to deliver my food with a tip, before. I'm not even going to get into when a driver eats the meal, you have zero recourse, in practical terms.
I'm done with companies not only charging more, but requiring that I assist them AGAIN with payroll.
Fucking pay an actual wage or fuck off.
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Living wage > consumer excess. Walk to the restaurant if you can't afford it.
Agreed. Food delivery is a luxury that should only be afforded to the wealthy. There are far too many delivery drivers serving low income areas. We must price out those neighbourhoods immediately.
Poor people can't afford luxuries. It is an unfortunate truth. Having another human do something for you requires you be able to afford their labor. Sometimes we subsidize if you cannot afford it (healthcare). Sometimes we don't (fast food delivery). If you believe you're entitled to undervaluing someone else's labor below a living wage while being poor yourself, can't help that. Belief systems are weird.
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
#56> Dashers who deliver in NYC will now earn at least $29.93 per hour of active time, nearly twice NYC’s $15 minimum wage for other workers. What’s a realistic amount of “active time” per hour? I’m assuming waiting for a job is not active time right? > These new regulations will force us to raise fees for orders in New York City. In order to better balance the impact of these new costs, we’re moving the option to tip i…
It's only the time between accepting a delivery and finishing it. Time spent waiting for a new delivery offer is not paid.
> After a few minutes of waiting, you are offered and accept an order and drive 10 minutes to get to the restaurant. You wait 5 minutes at the restaurant, then drive another 15 minutes to deliver the order.
> In this example, you spent 30 minutes actively on the delivery, which includes the drive to the restaurant, the wait at the restaurant, and the drive to drop off the order.
https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/article/Time-Earnings-Mo...
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
#57> Dashers who deliver in NYC will now earn at least $29.93 per hour of active time, nearly twice NYC’s $15 minimum wage for other workers. What’s a realistic amount of “active time” per hour? I’m assuming waiting for a job is not active time right? > These new regulations will force us to raise fees for orders in New York City. In order to better balance the impact of these new costs, we’re moving the option to tip i…
I did a quick search and it appears the law sets a minimum of about $20 per hour. So I guess DoorDash considers there to be about 40 minutes of "active time" per hour?
What law are you referring to, and a minimum of $20 per hour for what? Wouldn't your interpretation mean I can sign up for DoorDash, keep the app open, never accept a delivery, and be guaranteed $20/hr?
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
#58> Dashers who deliver in NYC will now earn at least $29.93 per hour of active time, nearly twice NYC’s $15 minimum wage for other workers. What’s a realistic amount of “active time” per hour? I’m assuming waiting for a job is not active time right? > These new regulations will force us to raise fees for orders in New York City. In order to better balance the impact of these new costs, we’re moving the option to tip i…
> So hiding the tip until after closing the sale to pretend the total price is cheaper? Very classy.
In practice, it is probably to eliminate customers feeling the need to tip, reducing the sting of the higher fees.
Plenty won’t tip if the Dasher won’t see until after.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the UK with Uber Eats/Deliveroo you can select a tip when you order and then you can modify the tip up to a short time after the order. So you can just put no tip and then add one after delivery if it’s good service, or increase/decrease it. Is that not how it works with DoorDash?
It is, and apparently a common shitty thing the drivers experience is big tips that evaporate shortly after delivery.
Not with DoorDash, drivers recieve the tip no matter what. If you talk to support and get your tip refunded (for poor service or something), DD eats the cost.
Re: DoorDash raises minimum pay to $29.93 per hour in NYC
#60In New York City five years ago I was switching from one IT career to another (Unix sysadmin to programmer), and was working part-time for a very small startup that had run out out of seed money, while interviewing for more lucrative positions (which I found four years ago). The founders were working a day job, and funding me out of pocket, which was to the tune of $100 a month. For a variety of reasons I decided to do Postmates deliveries, one reason being the flexibility.
Running around Manhattan on cold November nights five years ago, I began to appreciate the $100 a month I was getting programming for this small startup at my desk at home or in their co-working space. If you don't have a bicycle or car, you pretty much need a metro-card, which goes to your expenses. Sometimes orders came in right away, sometimes I'd be sitting around for over 20 minutes waiting for one. The food pickup location was always within half a mile of my location. The quickest pickup offer to delivery for me was 23 minutes, longest was 52 minutes. With waits of up to half an hour before a next offer.
Deliveries usually paid a little over $4, but there were bonuses of $2 for some deliveries, and you'd be paid for long distances or long waits for food. You would also get tips (up to $7).
As I said, I was getting paid $100 a month to do some programming for a small startup, which seemed very little, but it was a lot easier than how much time and effort it took running around Manhattan to earn $100 from Postmates.
About six months after doing occasional Postmates deliveries I was making over $60 an hour programming for a multi-national.