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Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

dexwiz wrote: post #42
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Genuine question, I don't use stack based langs. How and why not? What languages do you use?

Common ones like JavaScript, Java, C#, etc. They all have a stack, but aren't stack oriented like Assembly or Forth. The stack in modern languages is abstracted so you don't have to worry about pushing/popping values in a specific order, and you can't explicitly reference it. C and Rust is probably the closest I get with Heap v Stack memory, but even that is not truly stack oriented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta…

Ah gotcha. Thanks.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by moritzwarhier »

scop wrote: post #8

Is this "HTML-based" or "HTML, based"?

is an obscure tag that I think allows to exploit accidental turing completeness similar to the checkbox hack.

Or is it? I once considered using that tag for some price calculator widget, but it couldn't even replace a div because of styling issues or something.

That being said, I spent like half a minute trying to figure out the point of this post and then lost interest...

Will try again, was hoping for a funny Rube Goldberg machine instead of T-shirt merchandise.

So nah, it's about as "based" as blogging about JS frameworks IMO.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by toasterlovin »

dexwiz wrote: post #42
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Genuine question, I don't use stack based langs. How and why not? What languages do you use?

Common ones like JavaScript, Java, C#, etc. They all have a stack, but aren't stack oriented like Assembly or Forth. The stack in modern languages is abstracted so you don't have to worry about pushing/popping values in a specific order, and you can't explicitly reference it. C and Rust is probably the closest I get with Heap v Stack memory, but even that is not truly stack oriented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta…

Was literally reading that wikipedia page last night before bed, so this is all very timely for me.

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by gemstones »

One suggestion - it would be really cool to allow FFI. Something like

    
      const foo = (bar) => {
        document.getElementById('my-element');
        // More here!
      };
That way you could really leverage the full power of HTML, the programming language!

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by SpaceL10n »

51Cards wrote: post #11

Giving me memories of tag based Coldfusion days.

Same. I liked ColdFusion for what it was, but I also don't miss it. The spaghetti code I had to fix is what I remember most. While spaghetti code isn't a unique problem to CF, it is made so much harder to fix when you don't have a debugger and you can't right-click to find references. The horrors of endlessly nested cfloops inside cfifs with cfaborts and cflocation tucked away wherever the programmer needed it. never again!

Re: HTML, the Programming Language

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Post by gorgoiler »

MikeTheGreat wrote: post #22

The best part is how they have to keep repeating "HTML, the programming language" or "HTML, the markup language" everywhere in an attempt to keep things clear :) It would be awesome if they were using some sort of macro system / templating engine to consistently expand {{html_prog}} and {{html_markup}} just to keep it straight while they're writing it. Thank you for posting this, it made my day a bunch brighter!

HTPL?

I appreciate their joke, but “HyperText Markup Language, the markup language” is a little redundant.

Some of us have had to include XSLT programming in our careers. We have seen into the dark abyss… and been paid to do it!

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