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There is no need for a “conversation”. The concept has simply become obsolete and these laws will cease to exist as they are unenforceable.
They won’t cease to exist unless something happens to challenge them and render them unenforceable.
Even if copyright laws are not explicitly repealed, the logistics of enforcing them are becoming unsustainable. This is already largely the case today with the pirate bay and libgen still up and running after all these years, but I expect it is only going to get worse. Anyone can run pre-trained models and make them spit out all kinds of copyrighted data. Anyone can train new models given access to enough data and compute. I just don't see a realistic way to force the toothpaste back in the tube.