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Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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I'm confused as to how they got him to say "Coachella". Had he performed there in his lifetime or did they have to create that word from old voice recordings?

I'm pretty sure with enough voice data you can make people say just about anything, and Tupac left behind a ton of voice data.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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Sounds like you're creeped out by copyright in general, not by anything to do with this article.

That's not true. I rely on copyright as the foundation for lots of things (the code I write in my job and it underlies the OSS licenses that I use for code that I release freely). Copyright itself does not worry me. But there are concerning moves to make copyright last essentially indefinitely and in the UK we've recently seen the Olympics be backed up by criminal rather than civil penalties for copyright-related off…

> in the UK we've recently seen the Olympics be backed up by criminal rather than civil penalties for copyright-related offenses.

Copyright infringement as part of trade has always been a criminal, not civil, matter in the UK.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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That's not true. I rely on copyright as the foundation for lots of things (the code I write in my job and it underlies the OSS licenses that I use for code that I release freely). Copyright itself does not worry me. But there are concerning moves to make copyright last essentially indefinitely and in the UK we've recently seen the Olympics be backed up by criminal rather than civil penalties for copyright-related off…

Okay, but none of that is specific to this technology or its use at a concert. You just seem to be taking the opportunity to talk about something vaguely related that you have strong feelings about.

This is Hacker News, not Hologram News; we don't have to deliberately avoid a discussion about these relevant issues because it will upset copyright maximalists.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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post #32

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Rebuilding speech/song based on existing phoneme library (i.e. the discography) is already practical and, like everything else in this domain, has been done long ago in japan: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/ueki-loid-speech-synt... See also Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid, which is a fully artificial pop star that's been selling out shows (as a hologram since 2009)

I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.

On a much smaller scale, this has already been done. Tupac's posthumous "Loyal to the Game" album produced by Eminem had a number of lyrical phrases constructed out of phonemes.

There was a small amount of outrage at the time of its release, but it mostly focused on the fact that those constructed lyrics were endorsing other rappers (mostly Eminem's protégés also performing on the track), whom some fans felt Tupac would not have endorsed had he been alive.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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post #44

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I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.

On a much smaller scale, this has already been done. Tupac's posthumous "Loyal to the Game" album produced by Eminem had a number of lyrical phrases constructed out of phonemes. There was a small amount of outrage at the time of its release, but it mostly focused on the fact that those constructed lyrics were endorsing other rappers (mostly Eminem's protégés also performing on the track), whom some fans felt Tupac wo…

Definitely, but I think it is a question of scale.

It's one thing to construct some ad-libs, but to actually create a piece of art (i.e. an entire verse) is a whole different ball game. It would be like if someone took fragments of Picasso paintings, constructed an entirely new painting, and called it a Picasso.

I suppose it's conceivable that someone might try to do it, and it's apparently technically possible, but I think it would be roundly rejected.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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post #38

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Just because you don't like rap doesn't mean your snark is wanted.

B.I.G. would have been a better choice.

I disagree. Musical preferences aside, this took place during a performance by Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre and given their history and the Southern California location of Coachella, Tupac was the right choice. Not sure that either Snoop or Dre ever collaborated with B.I.G.

Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]

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post #46

I'm confused as to how they got him to say "Coachella". Had he performed there in his lifetime or did they have to create that word from old voice recordings?

I'm pretty sure with enough voice data you can make people say just about anything, and Tupac left behind a ton of voice data.

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