Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous • Hacker News Board

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by vannevar » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

jstarfish wrote: post #40

profsummergig wrote: post #23

Charlie Munger had great advice in general. And I've learned a lot of good from him. But I will never get over the hypocrisy of owning a quarter of Coca Cola and constantly criticizing Americans for being overweight (he used words like "sloth").

> But I will never get over the hypocrisy of owning a quarter of Coca Cola and constantly criticizing Americans for being overweight. That's not hypocrisy, that's savvy. Hypocrisy is an American drinking Coke while complaining about their weight.

Hypocrisy is spending billions of dollars to convince people to buy sugar water and then complaining about their weight. I guess you could call it savvy, but I think predatory is a more apt description.

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by nwoli » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

profsummergig wrote: post #23

Charlie Munger had great advice in general. And I've learned a lot of good from him. But I will never get over the hypocrisy of owning a quarter of Coca Cola and constantly criticizing Americans for being overweight (he used words like "sloth").

Enjoying the occasional Coca Cola but not overindulging is perfectly consistent correct behaviour within those constraints

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by gazelle21 » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

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Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by swayvil » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:49 PM UTC

A victim has a lot of power though.

A victim suffers. You aren't allowed to question a claim of suffering.

Therefore a claim of suffering is an axiom.

Axioms are the foundation of (a certain kind of) reality.

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by jrflowers » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

anonuser123456 wrote: post #44

wackycat wrote: post #33

Isn't he the guy that tried to build windowless dorms? Anyone who thinks humans should live without natural light is not anyone I am interested in taking advice from. Ref: https://www.archpaper.com/2023/08/university-california-aban...

This is such an absurd criticism. People attending UC Santa Barbara live in literally the most desirable climate in the world. When they want natural light all they have to do is _go_out_side_.

This is a good point. Santa Barbara is one of the few places on earth that has sunlight during the day, therefore people there should not have windows

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by nemo44x » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

It's disastrous for an individual to feel like a victim but it's beneficial to groups trying to build power by manipulating people into believing they are victims. Grievance studies in particular are designed to do exactly this.

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by bre1010 » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

nwoli wrote: post #52

profsummergig wrote: post #23

Charlie Munger had great advice in general. And I've learned a lot of good from him. But I will never get over the hypocrisy of owning a quarter of Coca Cola and constantly criticizing Americans for being overweight (he used words like "sloth").

Enjoying the occasional Coca Cola but not overindulging is perfectly consistent correct behaviour within those constraints

but not if Coca Cola's continuing growth depends on their ensuring that many many people are drinking it to excess

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by neogodless » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

yoyoyo1122 wrote: post #48

Isn't this like the saying "pain may not be your fault but it's your responsibility"?

It's more like focusing on what caused the pain instead of what to do about it.

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by boeingUH60 » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

hotsauceror wrote: post #49

JohnMakin wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Predators take advantage of this quality to gaslight/scam people, FYI.

Yeah. "He wouldn't have hit me if I had just kept my mouth shut, I know how angry it makes him when I ask about money." I want to say this position is despicable, but that's not a very charitable reading. But I fail to see how 'making everything your own fault' is in any way a healthy mechanism for dealing with others. Other people DO make mistakes. Other people have loads that they ARE expected to carry. Other peopl…

Personally, I don't make bad things my own fault. But I consider them my responsibility to fix.

Re: Charlie Munger – Feeling Like a Victim Is Perfectly Disastrous

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Post by zaptheimpaler » Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 9:51 PM UTC

profsummergig wrote: post #23

Charlie Munger had great advice in general. And I've learned a lot of good from him. But I will never get over the hypocrisy of owning a quarter of Coca Cola and constantly criticizing Americans for being overweight (he used words like "sloth").

This is weird, I like drinking Coke occasionally and am not obese. Coke isn't responsible for all obesity. This is just another way to victimize yourself which makes it much harder to actually solve any problem.