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X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#51
The free speech thing is a red herring. Musk said 'freedom of speech' but not necessarily 'freedom of reach', which seems reasonable. This is not the problem. The problem is that the algorithms simply don't work. The sewer analogy is good - shit seems to float to the top, rather than the other way around. Places like HN and even reddit nailed this a long time ago, but any given X feed just looks like an append-only list of trash. Or a quick-moving stream of turds, to stay within the analogy.

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#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you go into more detail? He pays for peoples legal funds who have issues with free speech on twitter no matter if he agrees or not.

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What's your source for these claims? Can you link to it, please?

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#55
post #8

To be honest, Twitter/X has been a sewer for a good decade or so. The only thing that has changed is the kind of sewage that is allowed or encouraged to flow through it.

It is objectively much worse now. Which is natural when you effectively disband the safety teams and allow all previous banned accounts back onto the platform. Also where as Twitter at least tried to comply with codes of practice, X has simply just given up. Also a lot of it has to do with Musk being the face of the platform and endlessly trying to start culture wars.

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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#56

The free speech thing is a red herring. Musk said 'freedom of speech' but not necessarily 'freedom of reach', which seems reasonable. This is not the problem. The problem is that the algorithms simply don't work. The sewer analogy is good - shit seems to float to the top, rather than the other way around. Places like HN and even reddit nailed this a long time ago, but any given X feed just looks like an append-only l…

HN is heavily moderated by very knowledgeable people and that's part of what makes it continue to work well.

It's like if you go into a bar and there's a guy screaming a bunch of curse words and racist crap in the corner at everyone near him. Normal people are going to leave if no one kicks the guy out.

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#57
post #12

X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.

I don't agree. It's really hard to tailor your feed to be stuff you want to read and not garbage you have no interest in.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#58
post #16

Just like Paris I hate twitter , and a lot, specially before Musk, however it is insane to see some people just starting to complain. Only when finally those who disagree politically with them have a crumb of a voice. The place was always horrible problem is this people had an elite of horrible "journalists" being yes men and secluding them from divergent voices.

Paris is much nicer than Twitter. If I had to choose which to keep, I'd pick Paris over some shit social media platform.

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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#59
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If I have to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all." Never said that you have to choose or that twitter is nicer.

My man what is your beef with Paris? Now it's evil?!

About 20 years ago we found a true villain in France, when they dared to suggest that destroying Iraq was not a worthy response to 9/11

It was wild. Your below-average American went so far as rewriting their menus so they wouldn’t have to order “French fries” any longer. The pettiness was bottomless.

More recently the Paris accord has given these same below-average Americans angst because it dares offer introspection on the F150 lifestyle that will soon be coming to an end.

Paris is truly evil to dare challenge such mediocrity

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

#60
post #12

X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.

>What are the alternatives?

Gouging your eyes out with a screwdriver? Sticking your dick into a blender?

Both are probably less harmful long term than using X.

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