OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

Post by kareaa » Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 1:52 PM UTC

olalonde wrote: post #24

siva7 wrote: post #17

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Rather than putting up a conspiracy theory the much more plausible explanation is that this board evidently pissed off a lot of customers, powerful people in tech and almost all employees of openai.

If we are to believe media reports. But why do customers and employees care that much about having Sam Altman as CEO? Sam was just at the right place at the right time. He is no doubt competent but not some kind of irreplaceable AI or management prodigy. OpenAI's true strength lies in its AI research team and their groundbreaking models. The C-suite is just a sideshow.

Post by brookst » Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 1:56 PM UTC

upwardbound wrote: post #22

olalonde wrote: post #5

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I also noticed an unusually high amount of throwaway accounts on OpenAI threads lately. I am not sure whether it's a concerted effort but Altman does seem to have a lot of fans.

Some people on Twitter, notably @HackingButLegal, have been collecting examples of possible paid astroturfing accounts which she believes belong to a reputation management firm hired by Sam to suppress his sister Annie's accusations that Sam sexually abused her as a child. https://twitter.com/HackingButLegal/status/17268410084771104... https://twitter.com/HackingButLegal/status/17268395129057322...

Post by mv4 » Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 1:58 PM UTC

drexlspivey wrote: post #34

robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company lo…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 1:58 PM UTC

siva7 wrote: post #45

drexlspivey wrote: post #34

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I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company lo…

Your argumentation against parent is very fluffy. > Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? The other 3 have their own motives which have been repeated over and over here. It came to light that there were strong tensions between Helen and Sam as he wanted her to be…

Post by brookst » Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 2:01 PM UTC

redserk wrote: post #30

olalonde wrote: post #24

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If we are to believe media reports. But why do customers and employees care that much about having Sam Altman as CEO? Sam was just at the right place at the right time. He is no doubt competent but not some kind of irreplaceable AI or management prodigy. OpenAI's true strength lies in its AI research team and their groundbreaking models. The C-suite is just a sideshow.

This is what I’m confused about. There are plenty of product people who would have been chomping at the bit to release ChatGPT if they knew their organization had the tech. I’m not sure what makes him unique here.