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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.

It does except for the AGI. That was part of the multi-billion deal with Microsoft.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct competition with their old levers of power, and Ilya + co can remain in possession of the keys to the kingdom.

Except they only had AI model velocity and not product velocity. The user-side implementation of chatGPT is actually quite below what would be expected based on their AI superiority. So the parts that Sam & Greg should be responsible for are actually not great.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.

Sam joining MS was actually one of the theories I read in the initial, or one of the first, threads about his ouster. 10 billion dollar seems like a pretty steep recruiting cost, but MS knows what they are doing, right? Right?

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

What? If anything a startup founder (in general) wants to become a gigantic corporation. The bigger the better.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By joining Microsoft, they retain access to all the data, weights, and infrastructure they had at OpenAI. They don't have to start from scratch and ramp up. They can start up right where they left off.

Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.

I don't know the full details, but their licence is clearly quite broad, as well as being exclusive and irrevocable.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Hopefully this motivates a lot of people who don't want Microsoft to be the AI company. Slowing down research would mean Microsoft wins everything.

MS now has both the accelerationists and the deccelerationists. They can keep accelerating themselves when pushing for regulatory capture through their deccelerationist branch to slow down any competition.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Not unexpected, MS is betting everything on AI. On the other hand, MS is a corporation in which lions are lead by donkeys. We had windows phones that was excellent and in the right place and then couple of product managers fucked it up. We have windows that is becoming even better underneath and then you have people that thought Cortana and Bing search in the bar were good ideas.

So Ilya can be safe that whatever potential nuclear capabilities they give sama, the Microsoft quagmire will not let them fully develop.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.

This isn't even remotely confusing now.

This move makes it exactly clear what was going on. Microsoft is doing to AI what they tried to do to Internet browsers back in the day. I wonder if they'd have been successful if they'd managed to buy the board of Netscape.

I suspect it's rather possible that there will be an ungodly-massive lawsuit in the offing.

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