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Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by eyelidlessness »

chalsprhebaodu wrote: post #39
politelemon wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sometimes feels there's now a race between typefacers to stuff as many ligatures as possible to the point that it's bordering in indecipherability and clownishness. There's definitely an audience for this though, else why would they do it.

Have you considered that it’s not indecipherable or clownish and perhaps you are a part of a group that just doesn’t get it?

Not OP, but that’s my conclusion. I also don’t like programming font ligatures, but I personally find it annoying when people who share my opinion feel the need to point it out in a discussion of fonts clearly designed for people who don’t share my opinion. It’s highly subjective and the prevalence of these ligatures has never been a huge burden for me, because fonts without them are rather prevalent as well, as are means to bypass them in my own use.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

karmakaze wrote: post #4

Sorry but that script 'true' doesn't belong in a programming font--monospace only.

I have Booleans in italic (blasphemy!) :D and find it is immediately recognizeable that they are spelt correctly when the editor formats them that way. YMMV.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by starkparker »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #43
benrutter wrote: post #30

I'm curious, does anybody else change their terminal/editor font about once every two months only to immediately decide."no I don't like change" and go back to their standard? (In my case JetBrains Mono) I'd don't know if it's that I genuinely prefer that font, or just that I've spent so long looking at it my brain can't handle anything else.

I tried a bunch, wasn't quite happy until I found Comic Mono. It's unironically is the superior programming font if you have dyslexia. Makes an enormous difference in my reading speed.

Interestingly, it might not be the Comic Sans of it that helps.[1]

If your editor or terminal has the option, increasing the tracking/space between letters in any sans-serif font can help with letter-flipping issues.

Disclaimer: I'm both mildly dyslexic and a more severe letter-flipper/mirror-writer (visual processing issues)[2] since childhood

1: https://www.boia.org/blog/does-comic-sans-benefit-people-wit...

2: https://www.understood.org/en/articles/faqs-about-reversing-...

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#54

Post by nilamo »

redleader55 wrote: post #50
rubjo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

I'm surprised you as a typeface designer are not interested in what end-users(aren't they the customers?) are saying about the font. This means, assuming good intent, that's not where the money is coming from. Can someone shed some light on who pays typeface designers and what are the incentives like?

Can it not just be something that's done for fun, for the benefit of whoever made it?

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by marginalia_nu »

starkparker wrote: post #53
marginalia_nu wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried a bunch, wasn't quite happy until I found Comic Mono. It's unironically is the superior programming font if you have dyslexia. Makes an enormous difference in my reading speed.

Interestingly, it might not be the Comic Sans of it that helps.[1] If your editor or terminal has the option, increasing the tracking/space between letters in any sans-serif font can help with letter-flipping issues. Disclaimer: I'm both mildly dyslexic and a more severe letter-flipper/mirror-writer (visual processing issues)[2] since childhood 1: https://www.boia.org/blog/does-comic-sans-benefit-people-wit... 2: htt…

It's literally the only font that has this effect on my reading I've found, seems to be something with the letter shapes. It basically feels like putting on prescription glasses, suddenly all the text becomes ten times more legible.

Playing with the spacing of another font doesn't seem to have a similar effect.

Although I'm open to the fact that there's probably a whole spectrum of different processing disorders that fly under the banner of dyslexia, so mileage may definitely vary.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by tokai »

redleader55 wrote: post #50
rubjo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

I'm surprised you as a typeface designer are not interested in what end-users(aren't they the customers?) are saying about the font. This means, assuming good intent, that's not where the money is coming from. Can someone shed some light on who pays typeface designers and what are the incentives like?

The supporters listed on the page pays.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by zare_st »

I don't dislike this font visually but it needs a lot of work.

How I approach "reviewing" monospace fonts is whether I would immediately or eventually change them if they came as default. Monospace fonts that come with default KDE for instance are passable and I'll change them eventually.

If this font was default to anywhere I'd change it immediately.

Using an explicit "human style" for comments implies that the code belongs to the "machine"? Humans wrote everything. The italics font is useless for programming. If I compare it to any standard fonts in the box below on site I can notice A) higher glyphs B) cartoony comments. And that's it.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by jojohohanon »

Obl: everytime we do a font thread, I ask if anyone knows a font that is

* proportional

* sans

* has programming ligatures

* clearly differentiates 1l and 0O

The closest I’ve come was iosevka. But it was not quite proportional and I wasn’t font of its looks.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by sebastianconcpt »

Lovely quality. I celebrate that. Ligatures are a deal breaker for me tho.

With centuries of use cases, we crafted an alphabet that abstracted phonemes, one per symbol, in a carefully isolated, unambiguous and successful way. Ligatures come and with a stroke of design creativity inject ambiguity and de-standardisation where those problems were previously carefully solved.

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